Sons new apprentiship....alarm bells ringing!

wantsajob

All these schemes are effectively labour on the cheap, under the supposed premise of a job in future paying minimum wage or more. I think you'll find it's all more about getting things done, than learning or creating some folder in order to prove these things have been learned.

Emmzi

Apprenticeships are hard to come by and the last thing you want to do is stir it with the employer before he has even started work.

It's probably legit if it is through college. As long as he is getting paid the right amount - I am assuming for the next year/ 2 years max - pragmatically, I'd keep my head down. There's loads of kids in the queue behind him who will be less fussy, and it sounds like he needs a start in his career.

Not the legal or moral answer. Just the pragmatic one.

McKneff

Jules22 wrote: »

I need the advise to be able to help him to 'do it for himself'.

But I dont want the college to think Im doing it for him because I'm not.

Its all new to me these apprenticeships, so I need the knowledge to be able to advise him,
so is it wise to ring the college?
Or am I going to do more damage?

A contradiction, if you ring the college, you are doing it for him.

To be honest, I would do as Emmzi says and keep a low profile for the moment.

His course may not start 'properly' till September.

Get your son to talk to other 'apprentices' at the college or to an advisor there.

nearlyrich

Legit for you to ask for advice but let him ask the employer and college he is 19 not 12 you have to let him sort it out himself with your support.

Jules22

Emmzi wrote: »

Apprenticeships are hard to come by and the last thing you want to do is stir it with the employer before he has even started work.

It's probably legit if it is through college. As long as he is getting paid the right amount - I am assuming for the next year/ 2 years max - pragmatically, I'd keep my head down. There's loads of kids in the queue behind him who will be less fussy, and it sounds like he needs a start in his career.

Not the legal or moral answer. Just the pragmatic one.

This is my dilemma.

It is early days and things might change. I'll keep listening and research more before I have a chat with the college.

Thanks.

Wyndham

Jules22 wrote: »

This is my dilemma.

It is early days and things might change. I'll keep listening and research more before I have a chat with the college.

Thanks.

So you're going to talk to the college? It would be better for him to talk to the college, and in fact, as he is 19 then the college cannot talk to you specifically about his case and will refuse to do so under the Data Protection Act. Any college will give you general advice, of course, but you won't get specifics from them.

I had a very distraught mother on the phone once as her son had come to my University and had not been in touch since he arrived. I couldn't even confirm to her that he was a student with us, and had to tell her that, sympathetically, of course. And I did then send an email to the son letting him know his mother was worried, but suspect he was too busy cutting the apron strings to read it

Notmyrealname

Jules22 wrote: »

This is my dilemma.

It is early days and things might change. I'll keep listening and research more before I have a chat with the college.

Thanks.

Sorry but I hope they tell you its none of your business. He is an adult. It is up to him to sort it out.

saintjammyswine

The college will have to make sure he has a contract of employment that is for at least the duration of the apprenticeship and will do a health & safety audit. They will check the the work he is doing will satisfy the evidence requirements of his apprenticeship framework but will not be involved in areas such as payslips. You/your son could speak to the training consultant/apprentice co-ordinator (the person that mentors from the college) about any concerns.

getmore4less

Jules22 wrote: »

I need the advise to be able to help him to 'do it for himself'.

Why are you here and not him?

Show him how to use places tlike this to ask the questions and get advice.

hand the thread over to him.

Judith_W

OP, please don't get involved beyond giving your son advice. It really is something that he has to do by himself. Many others his age are living away from home at Uni and he needs to learn not to lean on you. If you don't know the answer any more than he does before you go asking, you should encourage him to find out the answer and sort it out.