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  • Ionkontrol
    Ionkontrol Posts: 802 Forumite
    What are you going on about Potters? Unless it is disturbed, it id not dangerous.
  • ian103
    ian103 Posts: 883 Forumite
    Not to mention all those potential asbestos particles lurking on the back seat.

    I honestly cannot believe the advice given on here about this issue.

    Asbestos is a dangerous product. Those that are advising you to even touch it are doing you a disservice.

    I've worked on plenty of garages with asbestolux roofs and in each case a survey has to be done to identify the product and the risks invloved in handling it.

    If so much as one fibre enters your lungs, you could be in big trouble in around 30 years time.

    Of course, none of these internet posters will be running to your aid to say "sorry I may have been wrong" will they.


    if you are a trademan then you would know that asbestos has to be double wrapped in heavy duty polythene and properly taped before you can out it in a skip [encapsulated] (either one you have at your house or a council waste management site) and if it isn't they wont accept it so there is no chance of getting particles in the car. also if you want to be ultra sure dampthe sheets down with a water mist before wrapping than way the fibres are not airbourne.
  • Niv
    Niv Posts: 2,563 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    bookmarked (so I can check if someone gets sily).
    YNWA

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  • ian103 wrote: »
    if you are a trademan then you would know that asbestos has to be double wrapped in heavy duty polythene and properly taped before you can out it in a skip [encapsulated] (either one you have at your house or a council waste management site) and if it isn't they wont accept it so there is no chance of getting particles in the car. also if you want to be ultra sure dampthe sheets down with a water mist before wrapping than way the fibres are not airbourne.

    Thanks for the tip but I never have, nor do I intend to touch anything that contains asbestos and I certainly do not endorse anyone advising someone who's not qualified to handle, move or wrap asbestos to do the same.
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    Well I said the scaremongerers would appear and I haven't been disappointed. Its asbestos cement !!!!!! not pipe lagging. Its perfectly safe to handle if is not cut, smashed, drilled or otherwise messed about with. Its only when you do these things to it that any fibres can be released. Asbestos cement does NOT required anyone remotely qualified or licenced to deal with it as long as its ‘firmly bonded in to matrix’ such as it is in cement board. Sheesh.

    OP if you want to get rid of it just follow the double bagging and sealing instructions and the council will quite happily accept it.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • Fed_Up_Tradesman
    Fed_Up_Tradesman Posts: 62 Forumite
    edited 28 May 2012 at 4:15PM
    And the OP will of course know that it's all "firmly bonded in to matrix" won't they and all that moving and what not will never cause anything to become unbonded to it's matrix ever, will it ...

    I give up.

    Perhaps the OP should read this rather than take unnecessary risks based on ludicrous advice from anonymous internet experts:

    http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/guidance/a15.pdf
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    Perhaps the OP should read this rather than take unnecessary risks based on ludicrous advice from anonymous internet experts:
    Pot, kettle black. If asbestos cement is handled as per the guidelines its quite safe and it does not need a licenced contractor to do it either. You are needlessly pouring petrol on the bonfire.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • Joy, yet another self proclaimed expert who advocates ignoring HSE guidelines:

    http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/guidance/a15.pdf

    I suggest you read it.
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    Mindless sarcasm and thinly veiled insults creeping out in several threads coupled with a seeming inclination/willingness to "talk the job up" requires said poster to go on ignore.

    If it please you to have the last word then be my guest. I'm done with you.

    Job done.
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • Fed_Up_Tradesman
    Fed_Up_Tradesman Posts: 62 Forumite
    edited 28 May 2012 at 4:50PM
    keystone wrote: »
    Mindless sarcasm and thinly veiled insults creeping out in several threads coupled with a seeming inclination/willingness to "talk the job up" requires said poster to go on ignore.

    If it please you to have the last word then be my guest. I'm done with you.

    Job done.

    Or alternatively, you could just admit you were wrong to give advice to someone who has never handled asbestos cement products before, has no idea of the handling requirements and could possibly be in big trouble in 30 years time if said non-friable material becomes dislodged or broken during the move and wrapping process.

    Just because this particular product does not fall within the asbestos licensing scheme, folk working with it still have to abide by the Control of Asbestos Regulations 2012 as the HSE Guidelines clearly state.

    So quite how your advice would ensure all of that happens is beyond me.

    Are you giving this advice because you truly believe that there is absolutely no chance of contamination whatsoever and it will save a few bob ?

    Being an expert on all things asbestos you will of course be able to assure the OP that there will be less than 0.1 asbestos fibres per cubic centimetre of air during all of this won't you?

    Otherwsie, if you can't then the work falls within the licensed scheme.

    Surely, common sense should prevail and the proper advice should be given which is: leave asbestos and asbestos products to the experts.

    Quite why you're sticking your fingers in your ears is a mystery.

    I've always found it much easier to admit my mistakes and move on ...

    http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/guidance/a15.pdf
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