Noisy neighbours dont know what to do

melancholly

Tina20 wrote: »

Sometimes noise just travels, and you can't expect people to hoover at a time that suits you. It's their home after all.

that's just simply not true - many flats have rules about noise and state very clearly that sound must be kept to a minimum between something like 11pm and 8am. plus it's just plain manners. i live in a flat and would never hoover at 5am! if there was an accident i'd use a dustpan and brush and then wait until a reasonable time to irritate the people below me!

ETA - try the housebuying, renting and selling forum for advice too. there are plenty of landlords and tenants there who have gone through similar things.

Racheldevon

A friend has had similiar issues, and the local authority team that deal with noise issues came out spent time explaining the various procedures - similiarly to yourself, the noise was mainly at night time, so they provided her with a recording device, which she just had to press a button to record each time the noise escalated. The council now have the evidence they require and have started the various proceedings to deal with the neighbours. In her case it's a privately owned house, but I wouldn't have thought it makes much difference

dontone

I sympathise with you OP. I've got 2 idiots next door who are currently bumping about that much ATM I'm convinced (and tbh hoping) that they are killing each other. oh, wait they are just going out, door slammed twice to let me know (as if I want to know)
One is the sister of the moron who lived there with the gobby girlfriend for a couple of years who used each other as a punchbag. 4.30am every Sunday morning when they came back from Town. So precise I set my clocks by them.
I have just noticed that your neighbours are Polish. My mam lives next door to 14 Hungarians - yep 14, 10 are kids. She lives on her own too. There was a time she had to put up with all night parties (starting at 9am the previous morning btw), violence and all that comes with pig ignorant behaviour and the old "don't speak English, no understand" gubbins. She went around there once at 4.30am and got a finger in her face and a threat. Good job my brother decided to stay there with her that night. The coward with the finger soon went in the house.
She phoned the enviroment health and got nowhere with them. As soon as she said "Hungarian" and "language barrier" they washed their hands of the situation.
She then called the LL everyday for about 3 weeks - sometimes twice a day-, complaining of the noise, of the rubbish outside the doors (mice) the kids trying to rip down her fence, and that she was thinking about going to a solicitor if they continued to ignore her complaints. Language barrier or not, she told them that she was tired of having her sleep disturbed and her health was suffering as a result of it, if they failed to do something about it, she was going to sue, end of.
They sent a letter to them, and a copy - translated - to my mam. It told them that unless they stopped with the all night parties, they would be evicted from the property.
She's had no trouble since
BTW I did ask for help on this forum regarding this issue (it was a long time ago), and basically got ripped apart by some posters because I said the words "neigbours don't work, booze all day" and are "Hungarian". Glad no-one is having a go at you because you said "Polish"

BUT I will say this OP, if you are on your own, at night and it starts, call the police, tell them you are on your own, and you daren't go to their door as you are a bit frightened. The police WILL come out. Especially if you tell them that it is getting a bit rowdy and you think it sounds violent. And be a nusicance with the LL, phone, phone, phone. Keep on at them. Phone the environmetal health so you have the call logged. Being a pest gets things done. Keep a diary too just in case. If you do phone the police, they will give you an incident no, put that in the diary too. Anything you can obtain to help stop this behaviour will get it sorted sooner IYSWIM.

You are not being unreasonable, you just want a bit of peace. You have a right to a decent nights sleep. It's a pity that some people, no matter where they are from are inconsiderate morons.

pug_in_a_bed

wow so many great replies here, thank you.

I'm keeping a log for the env. health, you have to keep it for 4 weeks then they review it and see if any action can be taken

The problem is that its been going on for a year and I've really only complained a few times. One of the reasons is I generally can't hear it in the bedroom unless they are going really mad. I think they think they've been doing it for so long that they can't understand why I'm bothered now.

I have left it or just put up with it for an easy life until recently.

One guy moved out and the one left is more crackers so its gone much worse over the last two months.

The flat isn't well sound proofed so I can hear them walking around and talking etc. so when it goes loud it goes REALLY loud.

They work weird shifts so to them their day might end at 5am, and they seem to think its ok to invite all their mates round after work at that time and have a good knees up lol.

Its the only house in the street split into flats and its a lovely family street and I'm happy here bar this.

Should also say I and my sis are the owners, not renters. She lives down the street too!

dontone

pug_in_a_bed wrote: »

wow so many great replies here, thank you.

I'm keeping a log for the env. health, you have to keep it for 4 weeks then they review it and see if any action can be taken

The problem is that its been going on for a year and I've really only complained a few times. One of the reasons is I generally can't hear it in the bedroom unless they are going really mad. I think they think they've been doing it for so long that they can't understand why I'm bothered now.

I have left it or just put up with it for an easy life until recently.

One guy moved out and the one left is more crackers so its gone much worse over the last two months.

The flat isn't well sound proofed so I can hear them walking around and talking etc. so when it goes loud it goes REALLY loud.

They work weird shifts so to them their day might end at 5am, and they seem to think its ok to invite all their mates round after work at that time and have a good knees up lol.

Its the only house in the street split into flats and its a lovely family street and I'm happy here bar this.

Should also say I and my sis are the owners, not renters. She lives down the street too!

Doesn't make any difference Toots, if you own or not. My mam owns her house, and still made a pest of herself until it was sorted.
I own mine, but it's on the market. I reported the pillock who lived next door before, but the idiots who are in now are noisy through the day - not in the early hours. (wondering if that will change when/if the weather warms up) so I can't do much about it, unless "daddy" turns up in his flash car. Then I'm giving him a rollocking. ;)I think if you decided to sell you have to declare to the new owners any neighbour problems, but that's for the future in your case.
Like we have said - make a nusicance of yourself. It will get sorted.

Dawning

Hi Pug, just wanted to say I totally sympathise with your situation. I lived with noisy upstairs neighbours for 18 months and at times I got so upset and stressed I thought I was cracking up.
Great advice been given here.Definitely keep going on at your local council's environmental health dept...don't let them fob you off.
Good luck!

coinxoperated

I also found my neighbour likes what I would call 'chav tunes'.

I found slamming on a bit of Rammstein and Parkway Drive at 'sleeping time' for them insured they got message.

Nothing more intruding than angry German speaking men!

londonsurrey

Depends on the type of people and what you're willing to do. I had some neighbours who were loud. I had inherited these 3 foot speakers that I'd been using as table legs.

Plugged them in, faced them against the communal wall, and the next time they kicked off, I started playing. It stopped within 2 days. The base from the other side must have been really unpleasant.

I might be a female nerd, but the thing about nerds is that they have the strangest hardware knocking about.

grandma247

We put up with anti-social behaviour from local kids for four years. We kept on at the police getting incident numbers for the worst stuff and asking for a chat with the community bobby after leaving a message on his mobile for things that did not need immediate attention. He was great and between him, the pcso and the anti social behaviour person at the council who was also a policewoman it was sorted out. It took persistance from me and a diary of every single event. The only thing that held up proceedings was child protection people blocking the police when they wanted the two worst families evicted. I did not want these people to loose their homes but the kids were totally out of control and at least one of them still is although he can be prosecuted as an adult now. We have had a quiet life for about three years now. Younger kids have tried to copy them but they are not in the same league at all so I ignore them pretty much.

You are entitled to live without such disturbances so keep at it with the police, don't take that rubbish that they can't do anything, they can, you just have to stay calm and be insistant when talking to them. Get to know the local beat policeman or commmunity police and find out if there is an antisocial behaviour officer attached to the council. If the flat upstairs is rented they can be evicted . They need the police to point that out to them and the landlord should have done that too.

I heard opera is very good for annoying people who play loud stuff

ChrisEvanson

Just a word of warning. We had this problem with an ape who lived next door to me around 13 years ago. He would come in at 0100-0200 in the morning and play Tom Jones 'Delilah' etc at high volume, and sometimes have fights with his OH. I know how you feel as I used to lie awake waiting for it to start, and when it did would break into a cold sweat and stress.

I tried reasoning with him when he was sober during the day and explaining how I had felt etc but he didn't care.

I phoned environmental health and explained the problem. They said about keeping a log but also said if I did make it official then that would have to be disclosed if we came to sell. So basically yes they would try and help but if you want to move then you are stuffed.

We decided in the end to move. Extreme maybe but we were at the end of our tether and I couldn't take it anymore. When we moved there we had lovely neighbours, then that horrible ape moved in and it all turned into a nightmare.