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Facebook worth $104BN?

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  • worldtraveller
    worldtraveller Posts: 14,013 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Tanking so far today, currently down over 13%.
    There is a pleasure in the pathless woods, There is a rapture on the lonely shore, There is society, where none intrudes, By the deep sea, and music in its roar: I love not man the less, but Nature more...
  • Wookster
    Wookster Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    Tanking so far today, currently down over 13%.

    DOH should have shorted at the weekend.

    I'll bet the price is on a downward slope from here.
  • the_flying_pig
    the_flying_pig Posts: 2,349 Forumite
    All very silly, really.
    FACT.
  • worldtraveller
    worldtraveller Posts: 14,013 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    edited 22 May 2012 at 2:58PM
    The selloff in Facebook's shares deepened on Tuesday, as investors continued to question the stock's valuation after Reuters reported that underwriters cut their revenue forecasts for the company before the IPO.

    The company surprised investors after disclosing, just days before the initial public offering, that its revenue may be hit by more users transitioning to mobile platforms, where advertising is less proven. That prompted the analyst at Morgan Stanley to surprisingly tell clients that he was cutting his revenue forecasts for the company.

    Reuters

    It appears that this material information was allegedly only passed on to selective institutional clients. This could be a problem due to laws regarding selective dissemination.
    There is a pleasure in the pathless woods, There is a rapture on the lonely shore, There is society, where none intrudes, By the deep sea, and music in its roar: I love not man the less, but Nature more...
  • wymondham
    wymondham Posts: 6,356 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Mortgage-free Glee!
    I'm trying to see whats happended here... was facebook 'misvalued' to start with, and do investors have any comeback on this or is it you pays your money and takes your chances?
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    wymondham wrote: »
    I'm trying to see whats happended here... was facebook 'misvalued' to start with, and do investors have any comeback on this or is it you pays your money and takes your chances?

    Basically it's caveat emptor (buyer beware) unless the sellers have material information that would make you think the company is worth less and they withhold it from you.

    It's the same as buying a house basically.
  • Wookster
    Wookster Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    Just read this: http://www.businessinsider.com/exclusive-heres-the-inside-story-of-what-happened-on-the-facebook-ipo-2012-5 which is pretty disgusting if true.

    (The gist for those who can't be bothered to read is that half way through the road shows, the underwriters became aware that FB was not going to meet its earnings & revenue targets but only told institutional investors rather than all investors. This is potentially a violation of SEC regulations and maybe investigated).
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Wookster wrote: »
    Just read this: http://www.businessinsider.com/exclusive-heres-the-inside-story-of-what-happened-on-the-facebook-ipo-2012-5 which is pretty disgusting if true.

    (The gist for those who can't be bothered to read is that half way through the road shows, the underwriters became aware that FB was not going to meet its earnings & revenue targets but only told institutional investors rather than all investors. This is potentially a violation of SEC regulations and maybe investigated).

    I read it and it sounds like Rumour-Mongering at its finest to me.

    I told you this was a screaming short though.
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Mortgage-free Glee! PPI Party Pooper
    Great. So now we don't just have insider trading, but insider not trading. I wonder if any of the shorting can be traced back to the firms (or their employees) with insider knowledge.
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  • PaulF81
    PaulF81 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    UNfortunately gen, as I understand it. The share isnt shortable at the mo.
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