Unfair treatment for targets

Thea

Without giving away any identifyable information.

If manager a has the exact same job as manager b.

Both get 10 targets to reach in 1 year. Manager A misses one target by a few points. Manager b in another area misses another target by a few points.

Manager a fails, manager b passes.

Manager a then found out that their manager was strict and applied the same rules to everybody in that group. Manager B passes because their manager feels they worked hard and only narrowly missed their target. Others in managers B area pass as well.

Manager A then found out other people in other areas have have passed on what they failed on. Manager A was specificaly told they had failed on this one target and that is the only reason for failure.

Does manager A have a right to be passed. Evidence can be supported to demonstarate the targets were not applied fair across the whole company.

So does manager a have a case? What if said company turned around and said 'it's too late to pass' 'how dow you feel about that' 'there is no where to complain too'?

Cheers

Annisele

Does the 'pass' of 'fail' matter? Is a bonus dependant on it? Has anybody been fired over their 'failure'?

If not, I'd let it go. If yes, I'd think about whether the thing I'd get for 'passing' was worth the hassle of a grievance.

Thea

The pass or fail does count. The bonus and pay rise depends on it. It also affects the chances of any jobs prospects within the company and affects anytime off- i.e unpaid career break.

Emmzi

if they also rate on leadersip behaviours the hitting of the targets is less important

getmore4less

Look for a job working for managers b manager.


it will be upto the manager over the managers that manage a and b what is there possition on the situation?

Thea

Throughout the year the company have stated its not just about target but behaviours. This is why i feel Manager A has grounds to complain as everyhthing else has been met. Just one target. Infact the other targets have not only been met but exceeded.

Also the manager of manager a has now moved and is the manager of manager b.

tizerbelle

Manager A does not have a "right" to be granted a pass but if they feel they have been treated unfairly/differently they can submit a formal grievance to their manager/HR.

Whether this will get the desired result or not is anyone's guess. If it doesn't then the company are correct (unless there is discrimination on the grounds of a protected characteristic) there is nowhere else they can take their complaint to.

Emmzi

so you are saying behaviours count as well as targets

and basing your argument solely on targets

doesn't wash I am afraid. Person A may almost hit all targets but be a right !!!! to work with and gets them by bullying people. person b may miss targets but be the most helpful man in the world.

too many variables to say if it is fair or not.

mynameistallulah

Emmzi wrote: »

so you are saying behaviours count as well as targets

and basing your argument solely on targets

doesn't wash I am afraid. Person A may almost hit all targets but be a right !!!! to work with and gets them by bullying people. person b may miss targets but be the most helpful man in the world.

too many variables to say if it is fair or not.

I agree - it is the equivalent of degree awards, you could have two people on 69% but only one upgraded due to other relevant factors - extenuating circumstances, greater potential etc.

ktothema

OP stated that missing the target was the only given reason for not being awarded whatever it is they're awarding. The company is either not being fair or honest. Either way, does manager A want to live with the possible negative consequences of taking up this battle?

Thea

Interesting replies. Neither manager has a right to pass there contract. Its about been fair and consistent. The behaviours are there in both managers. Its just a case of both managers missing one target. But Manager A fails and Manager B passes. How to ask for this to be reviewed but without making a formal complaint. As ktotherma pointed out, the possible consequences.