help with bailiffs please

cozzierep

she has just phoned her accountant who done her tax return for her and she is gonna send a copy of it out to her thru post 1st thing in the morning as not allowed to do it over e-mail, would that tax return be enough proof to show them that she wasnt earning enough money to pay it or would it atleast help fight her corner? remember she only worked for 17 weeks on under minimun wage,

thanks

cozzierep

RAS wrote: »

That is a complete lie. !!!!!!.

On the first visit, they can charge for a levy or charge for a visit. The visit fee is higher at £24.50.

She already owes that.

For the second visit he can charge £19.50 if he does not levy.

Those are the only fees he can charge legally unless he gets in the house or levies on car etc.

What often happens is that on the first visit they add (pre-load according to the national Debtline representative on here) lots of fees.

First vist fee - £24.50
Second Visit fee £19.50 -can only be charged for a second visit if no levy is made
Levy - cannot remember value but under £20 (should only be charged if the levy is done and cannot be charged on the same date as a visit fee)
Attendence fee - routinely £100-120 - completely illegal
Van fee - £100-250 - can only be charged if a valid levy is made and if they are collecting goods.

So you can see why people get debts reduced by £250 when they query fees.

You can also challenge a levy if the value of the goods is insufficient to pay the debt and they cannot take essential furniture or tools of the trade or kids toys' or pets. We have seen beds, knackered sofas and TVs found on freecycle included in levies purely so extra fees can be charged rather than sendin g the debt back tio the Council.

that makes sense now how her bill is so high.....

she only owed £230 but now the bailiff has been out they have said she owes £370!! so bassicly they have tried to charge her £140 for the bailiff to come out once! and like you said... the levy they done is invalid as its my property not hers,

thanks again for your help mate,:) just shows that bailiffs are C**TS and will try anything to get a bit more money, so glad i looked it up online and came across this site,

CIS

she has just phoned her accountant who done her tax return for her and she is gonna send a copy of it out to her thru post 1st thing in the morning as not allowed to do it over e-mail, would that tax return be enough proof to show them that she wasnt earning enough money to pay it or would it atleast help fight her corner? remember she only worked for 17 weeks on under minimun wage,

How did she originally provide the information to the council ?.

cozzierep

CIS wrote: »

How did she originally provide the information to the council ?.

she took all her invoices down to the council office, they kept hold of them for something and then they all got lost never to be seen again!! tbh tho she shouldnt have gave them the originals just copys but at the time didnt think, she has got a few invoices from after they got lost but only a few, but hopefully the few invoices and the tax return will help her out, fingers crossed anyway,

CIS

Has she raised the issue with the council - did she have proof she handed them in ?

cozzierep

CIS wrote: »

Has she raised the issue with the council - did she have proof she handed them in ?

she has took it up with the council but bassicly said that there is nothing they can do now! but her mom told her after this that she shouldve got a reciept for everything she gave to the council but again didnt know this at the time, just hope that the few invoices and the tax return can help her out,

thanks

RobertoMoir

cozzierep wrote: »

sorry mate do you mean they CAN levy on goods they can see thru the window or CANT??

thanks

Well it isn't like there's a giant bear walking around behind them promising to eat them if they try to levy on stuff they can see through a window, but if they do, it's NOT a legitimate levy.

A levy is a legal seizure of goods. If you seize something, you are taking control of it. If someone does a levy on, oh I dunno, your coffee table, they are taking control of that coffee table.

It's not possible to seize something if you do not have access to it, because you cannot have taken control of it. Makes sense? This is where the (incorrect) rumour comes from that claims that a bailiff has to physically touch every item they levy on.

cozzierep

RobertoMoir wrote: »

Well it isn't like there's a giant bear walking around behind them promising to eat them if they try to levy on stuff they can see through a window, but if they do, it's NOT a legitimate levy.

A levy is a legal seizure of goods. If you seize something, you are taking control of it. If someone does a levy on, oh I dunno, your coffee table, they are taking control of that coffee table.

It's not possible to seize something if you do not have access to it, because you cannot have taken control of it. Makes sense? This is where the (incorrect) rumour comes from that claims that a bailiff has to physically touch every item they levy on.

well lets just say that MOST the stuff worth money isnt in her house anymore so he can try levy what he wants, lol, and the rest of the stuff ive had reciepts made in MY name to say i brought it so its my property not hers...... lol,

Penny-Pincher!!

OP....on a side note, it may not be a good idea having the cars registered at her address if she's claiming benefits as they will see you as living there and you don't want all the grief of benefit fraud too.

cozzierep

Penny-Pincher!! wrote: »

OP....on a side note, it may not be a good idea having the cards registered at her address if she's claiming benefits as they will see you as living there and you don't want all the grief of benefit fraud too.

that has also been sorted, the show car has been sold to my mate yesterday..... lol, and the other car is my WORK car, tip of the day to all bailiffs out there..... dont give people a clue that ur coming, if ur coming then come but now i know ur onto her then ive used my head and there is nothing of hers worth taking... lmao,