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MSE News: Half a million could lose disability benefits

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  • welshee
    welshee Posts: 364 Forumite
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    edited 24 April 2013 at 4:37PM
    What about spending umpteen hours on computers....is there not jobs these people can do?
    Even part time ?
    These people can still claim their disabilty payments but be of use to others in a advice way.
    I know someone that has no hands but still works on a casual/voluntary way entering data onto a computer 12 hours a week for the police service...yes using his mouth/teeth to type.
    But he as got some get up an go!
    And never hid behind his disability.
    Not saying that anyone does.

    And to round of its not worth bollocking me as i wont be back on for 10 days....and this thread may have finished by then.
  • nannytone_2
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    Dunroamin wrote: »
    But you've said before that you're within walking distance of the gym and shops. (although how you manage to have a gym and shops in a very rural area beats me.

    i live in a ,arket 'town'... population around 10,00. our 'town' is the largest in the area. the next significant town is 9 miles away ( chesterfield)
    of course we have shops. a small co-op , a bakers, a greengrocer and a butcher...as well as a hardware shop and a few 'odds and sods' shops.
    we have the 'toem park' which has a leisure centre. the school use it ( our school is the major school in the area and pupils are bussed in) that is where the gym is located. it isnt some swanky set up. just a room in the council run facility with a few excersis machines.

    the fact that my flat is right at the centre of the 'town' is exactly what makes it suitable for someone with a disability
  • sunnyone
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    mazza111 wrote: »
    Course I don't mind :)

    But if she could drive (which is in the planning stage atm, trying to find an automatic school that has a car she can get in and out of.) Her DLA money would then fund her car through the motability scheme. So what's she's now spending on taxis would completely go on a car, + perhaps her LRC to pay for fuel. Buying an older car, like I have wouldn't be an option really because she wouldn't have the funds to pay for maintenance etc.

    I won't look at the married side of it cos I don't want to even think that way right now :rotfl:I've already shown that because of the non dependent deductions that she could move someone in and still live rent free. But has to pay for having a spare room that she can't access. Which I think is a bit bonkers.

    I do agree with what you're saying about those who can completely save their DLA or AA, because they don't need it. But I feel if we go down that road, we'll have more and more people who do need it, who won't get it. Because no matter what way the government try to change things, there are always people who lose out.

    As she is under 25 mpotability will help her with finding a driving school and could provide her with a grant towards the cost of lessons.
    Perhaps different in your area, however the NHS Pain consultant in ours frequently refers patients with chronic pain condition for NHS acupuncture, reflexology sessions, aromatherapy oil massage as well as the other more traditional treatments, and distraction tecniques..All organised under the umberella of the hospital Pain Clinic Dept.

    They are also more flexible than GP's or consultants usually in which type or combination of pain medication they will prescribe.

    My pain clinic is like yours, they dont just doll out pills but treats the whole person both body and mind with just about every alternative therapy Ive beeen intrested in.
  • mazza111
    mazza111 Posts: 6,327 Forumite
    sunnyone wrote: »
    As she is under 25 mpotability will help her with finding a driving school and could provide her with a grant towards the cost of lessons.


    Thanks for that sunnyone. I had no idea they could help with things like that. I'll look into it :T
    4 Stones and 0 pounds or 25.4kg lighter :j
  • mazza111
    mazza111 Posts: 6,327 Forumite
    Just had a look and it's for existing customers only. Which means she would need to get the car and have someone sit with her. I'll call them over the next few days to be sure :)

    Think it might be better getting her license then go for her car :) But ty.
    4 Stones and 0 pounds or 25.4kg lighter :j
  • Dunroamin
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    nannytone wrote: »
    i live in a ,arket 'town'... population around 10,00. our 'town' is the largest in the area. the next significant town is 9 miles away ( chesterfield)
    of course we have shops. a small co-op , a bakers, a greengrocer and a butcher...as well as a hardware shop and a few 'odds and sods' shops.
    we have the 'toem park' which has a leisure centre. the school use it ( our school is the major school in the area and pupils are bussed in) that is where the gym is located. it isnt some swanky set up. just a room in the council run facility with a few excersis machines.

    the fact that my flat is right at the centre of the 'town' is exactly what makes it suitable for someone with a disability

    As I said to someone else, we seem to be using the term "very rural area" in rather different ways. I mean living in the country, not in quite a sizeable town with others close by.
  • Dunroamin wrote: »
    As I said to someone else, we seem to be using the term "very rural area" in rather different ways. I mean living in the country, not in quite a sizeable town with others close by.

    Personally I class very rural as meaning a total of five houses which is where we used to live (Acrise, Kent). No mains gas, no main sewers. Electricity was at the end of the line and the voltage dropped at night.

    We moved as it was becoming impossible in the winter to get out of the house and many times had to have our groceries, medication etc delivered to us by the local farmer on his tractor!!
  • nannytone_2
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    i can walk from one end of my 'town' to the other in 15 minutes. we are surrounded by open farmland and the nearest village is about 4 miles. the nearest town is 9 miles away.
    i think that can be descrubed as 'rural'

    im a londoner and you can walk for hours on end before you come across anything vaguely rural
  • dori2o
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    welshee wrote: »
    What about spending umpteen hours on computers....is there not jobs these people can do?
    Even part time ?
    These people can still claim their disabilty payments but be of use to others in a advice way.
    I know someone that has no hands but still works on a casual/voluntary way entering data onto a computer 12 hours a week for the police service...yes using his mouth/teeth to type.
    But he as got some get up an go!
    And never hid behind his disability.
    Not saying that anyone does.

    And to round of its not worth bollocking me as i wont be back on for 10 days....and this thread may have finished by then.
    As I said before more than once, it's not about the fact people can sit at a computer and type. In fact some on here are in a bed typing as they are bed bound, or are sat in hospitals typing.

    They may be logged on all the time as I am but I dip in and out as and when they can.

    BUT, the biggest problem is not doing the work, it's not even getting to and from work, which is another significant hurdle some disabled people need to overcome, it is keeping the job.

    There are very few employers, especially with new employees who have no job protection for 2 years, who will be willing to keep employees who are often late, or often off work, who cannot guarantee they will be well enough to get to work from one day to the next, who need time off for medical appointments, who need significant adjustments made to their work area, to their working hours.

    Anyone who believes this is untrue check out this thead

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4432953
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  • mazza111
    mazza111 Posts: 6,327 Forumite
    Dori I visited my old friend from school yesterday. She types with her thumb knuckle, as her fingers are hooked. She's in the process of trying to set up voice software, but it doesn't really like the Scottish accent :rotfl: There's no way she could even work from home.

    We got to the bottom of the problem with her money. Seems the WRO or social worker who filled out the ESA50, delivered it by hand to the DWP :wall: Along with her sick note for a year and her letter from the GP to say she couldn't attend the medical centre. They've received her medical certificate. So between it being handed into the DWP ( I know, would have been better going to ATOS themselves) and DWP sending it to ATOS, it's been lost. She's now waiting with no money until her social worker can get out to help her with the form again :/

    Such a shame.

    I'm probably the same hon, my pc is on all the time, and if I don't close down it will show that I'm online, even when I'm not :)
    4 Stones and 0 pounds or 25.4kg lighter :j
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