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A house is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it

In this forum we frequently hear people say that a house is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. Usually when a surveyor has "undervalued" a house.

If the market turned and started dropping, then it's probable that potential buyers will start making "low-ball" offers. If that happens, will home-owners think that their property is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it, or do you all think we'll hear moans about not being able to sell the property "for what it's worth"?
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  • DavidHM
    DavidHM Posts: 481 Forumite
    If that happens we will hear it but my view is that a anything is worth any given amount for an instant only ... so yes, it's always worth what someone is prepared to pay, never more, never less, and its value today can easily be different from yesterday or tomorrow.
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  • AndrewSmith
    AndrewSmith Posts: 2,871 Forumite
    I agree with DavidHM.

    This is indicated quite simply by the way that any surveyor will establish the value of a property.

    They visit local estate agents and gather comparable evidence of similar properties and what they SOLD for (not what they were marketed for). This is a direct representation of what people have paid for the properties and that this is what the surveyor value is based on.

    Therefore property is worth only what someone will pay for it. Until it has actually SOLD and completed the property is in effect worthless.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    There are 2 meanings of 'worth' here:

    A house is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it.

    A valuer will state a house is worth what the bank is prepared to lend against it.
  • AndrewSmith
    AndrewSmith Posts: 2,871 Forumite
    Generali wrote:
    There are 2 meanings of 'worth' here:

    A house is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it.

    A valuer will state a house is worth what the bank is prepared to lend against it.


    Not quite accurate.

    The valuer will state that the purchase price is fair based on comparable evidence irrespective of the amount of mortgage, assuming that the comparable evidence backs up the SOLD price.

    Example:

    Purchase price £150,000
    Mortgage £100,000

    Valuer will state the value is £150,000 and that it is suitable security for mortgage purposes.


    Purchase price £150,000
    Mortgage £45,000

    Valuer will still state that the value is £150,000 and that it is suitable security for mortgage purposes.
  • MickKnipfler
    MickKnipfler Posts: 1,983 Forumite
    Did anybody see that "top end" agent on TV last week? He seemed to be saying that his £5M appartments were dictating the property market and that they weren't overpriced as lower price "feeder properties" would rise to fill the vacuum!

    Yeah right...
  • Paul1sh
    Paul1sh Posts: 43 Forumite
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    I agree with AndrewSmith the valuer will always quote the purchase price as the property's worth. When we bought our house when the market collapsed in the early 90's the valuer ended up writing 2 reports because the price we'd agreed to purchase it at was considerably lower than the price it was advertised at. Originally it was £36,000 and for mortgage purposes the valuer had agreed at £36,000 but when he found out that our offer of £16,500 (the couple were splitting up - he was selling the house she was to get the profit of £23!) had been accepted he immeadiately printed up a new valuation saying that the property was worth £16,500 for mortgage purposes.
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  • wiggly
    wiggly Posts: 292 Forumite
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    what happens if the mortgage company values the house at less than the offer?
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  • fivemice
    fivemice Posts: 251 Forumite
    It would affect the LTV ratio.
  • AndrewSmith
    AndrewSmith Posts: 2,871 Forumite
    wiggly wrote:
    what happens if the mortgage company values the house at less than the offer?

    The mortgage company lend based on either the purchase price or valuation, whichever is the lower.
  • fivemice
    fivemice Posts: 251 Forumite
    Is a surveyor likely to differentiate between a property being worth £192K and £195K?
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