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free school dinners

Hi all to get free school dinners for my children one of the things to qualify is tax credit andhas an annual family income of £16,190 or less. is this figure before or after tax.
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  • ineed
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    I would imagine that's after tax.
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  • clairec79
    clairec79 Posts: 2,512 Forumite
    it's also child tax credit but no working tax credit - so if you work at least 16 hours you won't get them
  • sparky260500
    sparky260500 Posts: 243 Forumite
    thanks all ive copied this
    Child Tax Credit, provided they are not also entitled to Working Tax Credit and have an annual gross income of no more than £16,190, as assessed by Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs.
    what does as assessed by Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs mean.
  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,548 Forumite
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    thanks all ive copied this
    Child Tax Credit, provided they are not also entitled to Working Tax Credit and have an annual gross income of no more than £16,190, as assessed by Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs.
    what does as assessed by Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs mean.
    It means the income used for your tax credits claim.
  • dave030445
    dave030445 Posts: 1,001 Forumite
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    zagfles wrote: »
    It means the income used for your tax credits claim.
    iam getting this PHI monthly payment would that be income used for tax credit. As i dont work any hours
  • sleepless_saver
    sleepless_saver Posts: 2,741 Forumite
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    I think the PHI would be ignored for tax credits by HMRC as it won't be taxable income.

    Don't know where this leaves you with the gross income problem - you might be best to phone HMRC and ask.
  • dave030445
    dave030445 Posts: 1,001 Forumite
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    I think the PHI would be ignored for tax credits by HMRC as it won't be taxable income.

    Don't know where this leaves you with the gross income problem - you might be best to phone HMRC and ask.
    it is taxable
  • sleepless_saver
    sleepless_saver Posts: 2,741 Forumite
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    dave030445 wrote: »
    it is taxable

    The taxability may well be a side issue to the OP's main problem abnout what counts as gross income. But it doesn't look like these payments are necessarily taxed:

    "Health and unemployment insurance payments
    Payments received from certain insurance policies that provide sickness and unemployment benefits are exempt from income tax by ITTOIA05/S735. The Insurance Policyholder Taxation Manual (IPTM6000) has more details." ?
  • ffacoffipawb
    ffacoffipawb Posts: 3,593 Forumite
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    What if they had a gross income of £16,000 due to pension salary sacrifice and they had over £1M in ISAs getting tax free interest which is not required to be declared to HMRC.

    Is there a capital test for free school meals?
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