Outdoor events industry

lostinrates

I wonder how much this is worth. Already the summer things cancelled to not compete with the olympics so many of the spring ones closed by weather. badminton was cancelled, always a shame, but particularly in an olympics year ina sprot we have a fair chance of, and now chatsworth horse trials too, not to mention the number of smaller things rained off.

Is there indication of how much these out door things are worth to the economy?

ILW

I get the impression that absolutely nothing matters as long as the Olympics go OK and a few of our great and good don't end up looking a bit silly to their international mates.

Most normal people would have been happy with an opening ceremony that "only" cost 40 million, but some bod decided it needed twice that so out with the chequebook.

I don't get it.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

Can you give examples of what's been cancelled so as not to clash with the Olympics? I don't know of anything. Unless you were planning on having a Bring & Buy sale in Greenwich Park in the first week of August I see no solid reason to cancel anything.

Shame about Chatsworth and all the waterlogged racing recently, but that's an occupational hazard when living in Britain. Ice cream vans were making an unexpected killing in March, a time they'd usually be standing idle.

As for the Opening Ceremony, I think the idea is to convince everyone Britain is Open For Business; creative, thriving and definitely not a country of snivelling incompetent whingers. If I'd been in charge I'd have done a display of morris dancing followed by a burning of a wicker man, with everyone served tea and biscuits.

lostinrates

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

Can you give examples of what's been cancelled so as not to clash with the Olympics? I don't know of anything. Unless you were planning on having a Bring & Buy sale in Greenwich Park in the first week of August I see no solid reason to cancel anything.

Shame about Chatsworth and all the waterlogged racing recently, but that's an occupational hazard when living in Britain. Ice cream vans were making an unexpected killing in March, a time they'd usually be standing idle.

As for the Opening Ceremony, I think the idea is to convince everyone Britain is Open For Business; creative, thriving and definitely not a country of snivelling incompetent whingers. If I'd been in charge I'd have done a display of morris dancing followed by a burning of a wicker man, with everyone served tea and biscuits.

A well known example of not running this year might be Glastonbury. (i believe the headline was lack of loos and police due to olympics rather than the date itself)

Tbh, i think the things being lost know due to weather now are interesting, because losses made from them this year might well be rare occasions, and if we know how much they are worth then we can say 'at least they might not be rained off next year', i was not meaning to confuse weather tpwith the olympics, merely thinking they were both impacting on the same sort of event. It is a huge shame about the horse trials this spring in relation to the olympics....the buildup this year would have been tremendous.

I am also interested if the non equestrian sports are impacted in this way? I.e. are track events ipmpacted? I have no idea!


I think the morris dancers and cream tea idea that i think you posted some time ago was also pretty good tbh.


Edit: here is a thing on glastonbury http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/glastonbury/8069257/Glastonbury-2012-cancelled-due-to-lack-of-portaloos-and-police.html

The good news for thingslike loos and stuff is there operators are still profiting i guess.

grizzly1911

Do these events carry Cancellation Insurance at least to cover set up costs if not lost revenue?

If so I wonder what sort of cancellation criteria there are.

Badminton said it was the logistics of the operation as much as safety.

Remember Silverstone, 10 years or so ago when the Car Parks (fields) became quagmires?

lostinrates

grizzly1911 wrote: »

Do these events carry Cancellation Insurance at least to cover set up costs if not lost revenue?

If so I wonder what sort of cancellation criteria there are.

Badminton said it was the logistics of the operation as much as safety.

Remember Silverstone, 10 years or so ago when the Car Parks (fields) became quagmires?

There simply must be insurance, surely. Tbh, i had not thought it through that far to impact beyond the immeadiate industry. But for all the years' premiums paid when nothing goes wrong it is hopefully an easily stomached loss.

I am afraid i do not remember silverstone ten years ago. Or any other year!

chucky

ILW wrote: »

I get the impression that absolutely nothing matters as long as the Olympics go OK

Errr no, Olympic rules mean that no events can take place during the Olympic events. It's not a rule that the people in the government or previous government want so that the Olympics go well and nothing matters but because those are the rules. It happens in every country that has held the Olympics.

ILW wrote: »

I don't get it.

Explains a lot really.

lostinrates

chucky wrote: »

Errr no, Olympic rules mean that no events can take place during the Olympic events. It's not a rule that the people in the government or previous government want so that the Olympics go well and nothing matters but because those are the rules. It happens in every country that has held the Olympics.


Explains a lot really.

Thats interesting, i did not know that. Is this just events in olympic sports?

ILW

chucky wrote: »

Errr no, Olympic rules mean that no events can take place during the Olympic events. It's not a rule that the people in the government or previous government want so that the Olympics go well and nothing matters but because those are the rules. It happens in every country that has held the Olympics.


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Would that be the "Ben Dover" Clause?

Or just one of them.

chucky

ILW wrote: »

Would that be the "Ben Dover" Clause?

Or just one of them.

No it's a fact, not your sweeping generalisations but an actual real fact.

Unlike your 'facts' that no-one in Greece pays tax.

chucky

lostinrates wrote: »

Thats interesting, i did not know that. Is this just events in olympic sports?

Not sure if it's Olympic sports, I know that most football clubs aren't happy because they can't play any of their pre-season friendlies until the 26th of July I believe even though the Olympic football doesn't end to the 11th August. Specific dispensation has to be requested as I understand it and matches have to be played in specific stadiums - it could have something to do with distance from the event.