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Lodger - getting deposit back

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  • Yorkie1
    Yorkie1 Posts: 12,473 Forumite
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    Don't start lying. It's not clever and, if you go through with it in court, you're looking at a possible criminal conviction and prison sentence for perverting the course of justice.

    What you could do is put together a rent schedule. Set down the £400 per month you owe. Then set down all the £100 weekly payments.

    Take it to the month's notice date and see how they balance out.

    You should get the balance back from your deposit. The LL can't withhold the entire deposit in principle, unless you actually owe that amount in unpaid but due rent.
  • MrSnuggles
    MrSnuggles Posts: 156 Forumite
    edited 8 May 2012 at 9:12PM
    I threatened landlord if I bring them to court, I'll make sure their mortgage lender finds out they've been taking in a lodger without adding further housing insurance.

    And I'll make sure their customers know they've been keeping a lodger.

    Landlord has agreed to give me deposit back and said a week's notice will suffice. Now I feel like a good samaritan for giving two week's notice instead of one. :D Saved having to give two additional weeks of rent. £200 of spare cash! Woohoo.

    New place I'm moving to is equally as large. Huge double bed, large kitchen, conservatory, living room, two bathrooms... and I'm only paying £260pcm inclusive of bills.

    Imagine living in my current place for a whole year. Before it was paying monthly... £4800, then it's weekly, £5200 a year! There's no way I would have benefited from paying an extra £400 quid a year.
  • 19lottie82
    19lottie82 Posts: 6,033 Forumite
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    edited 8 May 2012 at 9:28PM
    MrSnuggles wrote: »
    I threatened landlord if I bring them to court, I'll make sure their mortgage lender finds out they've been taking in a lodger without adding further housing insurance.

    And I'll make sure their customers know they've been keeping a lodger.

    Landlord has agreed to give me deposit back and said a week's notice will suffice. Now I feel like a good samaritan for giving two week's notice instead of one. :D Saved having to give two additional weeks of rent. £200 of spare cash! Woohoo.

    New place I'm moving to is equally as large. Huge double bed, large kitchen, conservatory, living room, two bathrooms... and I'm only paying £260pcm inclusive of bills.

    Imagine living in my current place for a whole year. Before it was paying monthly... £4800, then it's weekly, £5200 a year! There's no way I would have benefited from paying an extra £400 quid a year.
    Again, why did you agree to paying weekly in the first place if you knew it was going to cost you more?

    Your mortgage provider doesn't have to give u permission to take on a lodger. To let the whole property yes, but a room, no.

    I'm glad you got your deposit back but your ex LL was no under no legal obligation to return it. He was obviously just trying to do you a favour to keep the peace which was good of him. f you had taken him to court then you would have lost.

    Please take this as a lesson - the next time you are unsure about any matters regarding your letting arrangements make sure you clarify them with your LL, ideally getting something in writing.
  • 00ec25
    00ec25 Posts: 9,123 Forumite
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    lodger or tenants the fact is if the LL requires weeky payment of rent he is lkegally required to issue a formal rent book (irrespective of whether payment is by cash in hand or by direct bank transfer / SO) - despite what others have said, had you gone to court, it is far from certain that you would have lost...
  • 19lottie82
    19lottie82 Posts: 6,033 Forumite
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    Oh and just hope ur new LL doesn't request a reference from your old one. Not providing an adequate notice period and threatening him with blackmail prob aren't going to convine him that you're the worlds best tenant!
  • 19lottie82
    19lottie82 Posts: 6,033 Forumite
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    00ec25 wrote: »
    lodger or tenants the fact is if the LL requires weeky payment of rent he is lkegally required to issue a formal rent book (irrespective of whether payment is by cash in hand or by direct bank transfer / SO) - despite what others have said, had you gone to court, it is far from certain that you would have lost...

    For a simple lodgers agreement, Im not sure that this is true. And even if it is, What has keeping a rent book got to do with an agreed notice period? They are 2 totally separate matters.
  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    MrSnuggles wrote: »
    IAt first we verbally agreed I would pay monthly and one month's notice will be given when I leave.
    MrSnuggles wrote: »
    Then I'll just have to lie and say we agreed I can leave after a week's notice.
    MrSnuggles wrote: »
    I threatened landlord if I bring them to court, I'll make sure their mortgage lender finds out they've been taking in a lodger without adding further housing insurance.

    And I'll make sure their customers know they've been keeping a lodger.

    Landlord has agreed to give me deposit back and said a week's notice will suffice. Now I feel like a good samaritan for giving two week's notice instead of one.
    People might believe you if you look them straight in the eye and never look down at your pants. But I don't think you are that good.
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