Speeding and motability

Lum

If it's a motability car then it will likely be longer than 14 days.

The way the scheme works is a NIP (notice of intended prosecution) is sent out to the registered keeper of the vehicle, which will be motability. The police are required to do this within 14 days.

The NIP will also include a Section 172 request requiring the registered keeper to name the driver, so Motability will send it back to the police with your details. They have up to 28 days to do this.

The police then have a further 28 days to issue a NIP to the nominated driver.

That's the bad news, now for the good news.

The speedo on your car overreads. They all do. They are legally allowed to overread by up to 10%+6.25 mph, so at 40mph indicated you could actually have been going as slow as 31mph. You can check how fast you actually were going by finding a long, straight, flat road and comparing the speedo to a GPS device such as a satnav. The ones built into smartphones are fine for this purpose.

As mentioned above, there is also a tolerance, typically of 10% + 2 before prosecution, i.e. they wont prosecute until 35mph in a 30, and the first few mph above that will usually trigger an invitation to a speed awareness course, rather than 3 points. The course does cost more than the fine.

For 40 in a 30 if you went with the points, you'd be looking at a "conditional offer of fixed penalty" which is 3 points and £60 with no need to attend court or anything like that. It's all done by post.

The only advice I would give is to send everything recorded delivery and keep the receipts. The penalties for not complying with the documentation are a lot higher than the fixed penalty for speeding. You're looking at a court appearance and up to 6 points and £1000 if you don't respond to the Section 172 request, for example.

Obukit

Lum wrote: »

If it's a motability car then it will likely be longer than 14 days.

The way the scheme works is a NIP (notice of intended prosecution) is sent out to the registered keeper of the vehicle, which will be motability. The police are required to do this within 14 days.

The NIP will also include a Section 172 request requiring the registered keeper to name the driver, so Motability will send it back to the police with your details. They have up to 28 days to do this.

The police then have a further 28 days to issue a NIP to the nominated driver.

Not true, Motability cars are all registered directly to the recepient of the Motability. Motability just pay for the lease, but don't provide the lease.

As such, any speeding tickets are sent direct, and must be sent within 14 days if the details are correct at the DVLA. Motability will not know anything about it.

And there is no time limit for subsequent NIPs. The 28 day limit is for the driver to return the S172 form, but the police can send a NIP whenever they want, although they often only have six months from the date of the offence to lay information at court, so tend to be quite quick.

Lum

Obukit wrote: »

Not true, Motability cars are all registered directly to the recepient of the Motability. Motability just pay for the lease, but don't provide the lease.

As such, any speeding tickets are sent direct, and must be sent within 14 days if the details are correct at the DVLA. Motability will not know anything about it.

Fair point. I've not used Motability myself, but that's how it works for pretty much every other lease company out there. I've seen tickets drag on for months because they go to lease company -> corporate head office -> corporate divison office -> manager -> company driver -> company driver's partner or child.

Parva

Horseunderwater wrote: »

If nothing arrives in post by 14 business days - you should have gotten away with it. However, tell him he must be more aware of speeding now. Suffolk Police are really having a big crack down at present and are everywhere, doing anyone. Just wish somebody would sit on my drive and do all the SPEEDERS in my road. It is rare a car actually manages to do 30 and any that do get overtaken! So far have lost 3 cats myself - nearly my daughter - and other residents have lost other pets as well. What amazes me is that people still buy gas guzzlers and speed in these days of high fuel prices. Driving at more sensible speeds would save lots of dosh for loads a people, if only they'd do it. My OH now drives at a speed that gets him approx 85mpg by doing natural acceleration and slowing down quite a bit from junctions etc, keeping back from other vehicles. Buys one tank a month now in stead of one and a bit. And yes it is diesel, which finally got a proper service last year, despite Ford saying jobs done etc, they never were.

Firstly, I would suggest that you move house away from a main road where your cats are less likely to stray into the wheels of people driving by (and I doubt that speed plays much of a factor even if the top speed is 30MPH).

Secondly, I would remove those rose tinted spec's that your OH wears or alternatively offer up the technology that your OH has discovered that gives him 85MPG on an urban cycle without being some sort of hybrid vehicle and without other technologies installed.

Lum

Also worth noting that driving slower does not necessarily save money. The sweet spot varies per vehicle but it's generally around 55-60 mph.

Driving at 30, when it's legal and safe to drive faster, is a pointless waste of fuel for the vast majority of cars on the road.

paddedjohn

woodbine wrote: »

motability includes insurance,and a single speeding fine does not have to be reported,OP i doubt being 3% over the limit would mean a fine

Very unlikely to get points but if he did then the insurance company must be informed, its a change in circumstances, even though it wont matter to the premium costs they could get arsey in the event of a claim.

lyniced

It's been over 4 weeks now, so guessing we're ok!

Lum

Excellent news. Thank you for the update.