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Permission Needed or Not?

Just found out that my neighbour (semi-detached) has converted their 1st floor into a 2-bed self-contained maisonette and is advertising it for rent via a local Estate Agent and online with "all bills included".

Should I not have been given prior notice of this in case I had objections? What if this has been done with no formal planning permission or adherence to building regs - fire doors, fire escapes, sound proofing etc?

The neighbour is not approachable. I'm assuming planning permission is needed for this sort of thing?

Ta,
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  • BitterAndTwisted
    BitterAndTwisted Posts: 22,492 Forumite
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    edited 7 May 2012 at 7:19PM
    A planning permission application is something that you can object to, but the planners doen;t have to take your objections into account. This conversion may not have been something which required PP in the first place: check with your LA and ask them.

    All building works have to adhere to buildings regs but unless this conversion is in danger of making your own semi fall down, I don't think it's your concern. Fire doors, fire escapes, sound proofing etc won't affect you so unless you are actively seeking to cause trouble for your neighbour I suggest you mind your own business.
  • cattie
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    If all bills are included, which would include council tax, and utilities then it is in all likelihood still considered one property, so as no development would have taken place, I don't think there would be a reason for you to be notified.

    If you have any concerns then why not speak direct to the planning office yourself?
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  • phill99
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    Why not call the planning dept at your local council and find out.
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  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    cattie wrote: »
    If all bills are included, which would include council tax, and utilities then it is in all likelihood still considered one property, so as no development would have taken place, I don't think there would be a reason for you to be notified.
    Note that the OP claims that the neighbour has converted the first floor into a *self contained two bedded maisonette* which suggests that the neighbour is still resident in the lower half of the property ( or someone else will be occupying it separately.) The fact that it may "appear" to be one property does not mean that no development has taken place.

    Including the bills within the rent is often the method of choice when a property owner has not separated the utilties as part of a conversion.

    OP as both Cattie and Phil99 say:
    cattie wrote: »
    If you have any concerns then why not speak direct to the planning office yourself?
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    A planning permission application is something that you can object to, but the planners doen;t have to take your objections into account. This conversion may not have been something which required PP in the first place: check with your LA and ask them.
    Am assuming that the property in question , which the OP has said is the semi-d to his/her own property, is a house. If a house has been sub-divided to (edit: form) separate units then PP will have been required. The OP has not said in this thread that s/he is a T so why the reference to an LA?
    All building works have to adhere to buildings regs but unless this conversion is in danger of making your own semi fall down, I don't think it's your concern. Fire doors, fire escapes, sound proofing etc won't affect you so unless you are actively seeking to cause trouble for your neighbour I suggest you mind your own business.
    Ouch. ;)

    If the properties are semi detached then it clearly does have potential ramifications for the OP. A conversion which may breach fire regs could mean the OP's property also being at higher risk.
  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    tbs624 wrote: »
    Am assuming that the property in question , which the OP has said is the semi-d to his/her own property, is a house. If a house has been sub-divided to from separate units then PP will have been required. The OP has not said in this thread that s/he is a T so why the reference to an LA?

    Local Authority?
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    .......durrr......: Thanks marliepanda :grin:
  • BitterAndTwisted
    BitterAndTwisted Posts: 22,492 Forumite
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    Correct: Local Authority. Fire doors, fire escapes or lack thereof are going to affect the OP exactly how?
  • katapult99
    katapult99 Posts: 14 Forumite
    Hi, - both mine and the neighbour's houses are similar in that they are (or in their case were) houses. The photos on the Estate Agents details show that a bathroom and kitchen have been installed on the 1st floor - so plenty of development has taken place.
  • Notmyrealname
    Notmyrealname Posts: 4,003 Forumite
    katapult99 wrote: »
    Hi, - both mine and the neighbour's houses are similar in that they are (or in their case were) houses. The photos on the Estate Agents details show that a bathroom and kitchen have been installed on the 1st floor - so plenty of development has taken place.

    You don't need planning permission to install a bathroom or kitchen.
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