my former employer won't give me my paye ref number

sapman17

my former employer won't give me my paye ref number and i can't find
a wage slip although i remember them being a small brown envelope with just my deductions and not much else is there a way to get this I have contacted him on his telephone and mobile and to ask the company that bought the workload off him and he has not informed the hmRC or me with the number so can't claim for a tax refund as the code was wrong when i started my new job help urgently needed please

DCFC79

Is that info not on p60's ?

Cant answer your original question.

sapman17

DCFC79 wrote: »

Is that info not on p60's ?

Cant answer your original question.

sadly can't find p60 anyway if it was on there thanksd for reply though

antrobus

sapman17 wrote: »

my former employer won't give me my paye ref number ...

Possibly because he hasn't got one.

Contact HMRC and give them as much detail about your former employer that you can lay your hands on.

Horseunderwater

If you ring HMRC enquiries and give them your national insurance number, they should be able to find these details fairly easily. Not keeping your P60 could be a problem as you should keep them for 6 years minimum. Is there any reason why you think you should get a refund on the tax paid? Did you earn less income than £7475 last year? Or are we talking about earlier years here?

sapman17

Horseunderwater wrote: »

If you ring HMRC enquiries and give them your national insurance number, they should be able to find these details fairly easily. Not keeping your P60 could be a problem as you should keep them for 6 years minimum. Is there any reason why you think you should get a refund on the tax paid? Did you earn less income than £7475 last year? Or are we talking about earlier years here?

the tax code when i began my new employment was wrong meant i was paying to much tax and lady at HMRC said i would be able to claim this back i meant for last year but i have had about 3 years were i have been mostly unemployed know i am back in employment and last employer is makin very difficult for me.

JessStar

HMRC should be able to trace it as long as you have the full address of your employer (or the accountant who does their payroll).

If they can't, it probably means he's been up to naughties so you'll need to report him, I'm afraid. And probably won't get any money back.

Sambucus_Nigra

If it was 3 years ago - perhaps they just can't be arsed to find it.

JessStar

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

If it was 3 years ago - perhaps they just can't be arsed to find it.

Doubtful. You put the address in the system, press OK, bingo. Job done.

Doesn't matter if it was last week or 20 years ago that the OP worked there, ref numbers won't have changed.

Notmyrealname

sapman17 wrote: »

the tax code when i began my new employment was wrong meant i was paying to much tax and lady at HMRC said i would be able to claim this back i meant for last year but i have had about 3 years were i have been mostly unemployed know i am back in employment and last employer is makin very difficult for me.

Phone up HMRC. Ask them to send you a copy of your tax records for the last 4 years. They will send you a letter out with the employers name, the employers reference and what they declared you earned in those years.

Dawning

sapman17 wrote: »

the tax code when i began my new employment was wrong meant i was paying to much tax and lady at HMRC said i would be able to claim this back i meant for last year but i have had about 3 years were i have been mostly unemployed know i am back in employment and last employer is makin very difficult for me.

Did you have the wrong tax code during the whole of your employment with that employer? It's not clear from your post. If a new (correct) code was notified during your employment then your employer at that time would have adjusted your tax deductions to reflect the new code. If you had an incorrect code for the whole period of employment you may be due a refund.
I agree that you need to call HMRC and ask for your tax records to cover the period you're asking about. Or quicker would be to find your P45 from when you left that employment, or is it lost like your P60?