Fined by DVLA

JVRMac

Not sure if there is anything I can do or whether I just have to pay up, but any advice would be appreciated.

I bought a car in October last year from a large dealership, they told me I could drive the car away that day and booked in an appt a week later to valet it and for me to bring all the documentation in.

So I handed everything over to them the following week. Then I get a phone call sometime in December saying they didn't have the log book, I told them I had handed eveything over to them and it was in the car file, they said they would double check but could I also have another look round which I did.

Then they ring me again either just before or after christmas saying they definately didn't have it and asked if I could apply for a copy, they said they could apply but it's quicker if I did it.

So I agreed and went to apply online but found it was chargeable, so I rang them back and said I wasn't prepared to pay for it and they said they would give me a cheque for the amount. I said I wasn't sure as I had other priorities for my money.

Anycase I didn't apply for it and assumed as a dealer they would apply themselves, I had no further contact from them and thought all was OK until I got the tax renewal through. Even then I thought I don't have the car and didn't do anything about it and was only when I got a reminder telling me I must register or risk being fined did I eventually send off a letter saying I no longer had the car and giving the details of the dealer.

Now I've recieved a letter saying I've been fined £80 and I#m still liable even if I don't have the car.

I've filled the declaration off advising what's happened and sent a copy of the purchase for my new car saying they have taken the old one as part exchange. But just wondering if I will still have to pay the fine.

Only with hindsight do you realise how totally niave you can be:(

Premier_2

JVRMac wrote: »

Not sure if there is anything I can do or whether I just have to pay up, but any advice would be appreciated.

I bought a car in October last year from a large dealership, they told me I could drive the car away that day and booked in an appt a week later to valet it and for me to bring all the documentation in.

So I handed everything over to them the following week. Then I get a phone call sometime in December saying they didn't have the log book, I told them I had handed eveything over to them and it was in the car file, they said they would double check but could I also have another look round which I did.

Then they ring me again either just before or after christmas saying they definately didn't have it and asked if I could apply for a copy, they said they could apply but it's quicker if I did it.

So I agreed and went to apply online but found it was chargeable, so I rang them back and said I wasn't prepared to pay for it and they said they would give me a cheque for the amount. I said I wasn't sure as I had other priorities for my money.

Anycase I didn't apply for it and assumed as a dealer they would apply themselves, I had no further contact from them and thought all was OK until I got the tax renewal through. Even then I thought I don't have the car and didn't do anything about it and was only when I got a reminder telling me I must register or risk being fined did I eventually send off a letter saying I no longer had the car and giving the details of the dealer.

Now I've recieved a letter saying I've been fined £80 and I#m still liable even if I don't have the car.

I've filled the declaration off advising what's happened and sent a copy of the purchase for my new car saying they have taken the old one as part exchange. But just wondering if I will still have to pay the fine.

Only with hindsight do you realise how totally niave you can be:(

Can you please clarify for me please, which vehicle did you apply to DVLA and declare you were the registered keeper of?

Was it the car you bought from the dealer, or a car you sold to the dealer as a part exchange

agrinnall

I think you are liable because when you sell a vehicle to the motor trade you are meant to retain section 9 of the V5C, having had it stamped by the dealer first, and return it to DVLA - I did this myself a couple of weeks ago so it's fresh in my mind.

JVRMac

Premier wrote: »

Can you please clarify for me please, which vehicle did you apply to DVLA and declare you were the registered keeper of?

Was it the car you bought from the dealer, or a car you sold to the dealer as a part exchange

The one I purchased, when I took all the documentation for my old car in, they didn't check anything and I didn't even think about it.

mgdavid

JVRMac wrote: »

The one I purchased, when I took all the documentation for my old car in, they didn't check anything and I didn't even think about it.

if 'the one I purchased' then your original post makes no sense whatsoever. You may know what you mean, but I don't.

Horseunderwater

JVRMac wrote: »

Not sure if there is anything I can do or whether I just have to pay up, but any advice would be appreciated.

I bought a car in October last year from a large dealership, they told me I could drive the car away that day and booked in an appt a week later to valet it and for me to bring all the documentation in.

So I handed everything over to them the following week. Then I get a phone call sometime in December saying they didn't have the log book, I told them I had handed eveything over to them and it was in the car file, they said they would double check but could I also have another look round which I did.

Then they ring me again either just before or after christmas saying they definately didn't have it and asked if I could apply for a copy, they said they could apply but it's quicker if I did it.

So I agreed and went to apply online but found it was chargeable, so I rang them back and said I wasn't prepared to pay for it and they said they would give me a cheque for the amount. I said I wasn't sure as I had other priorities for my money.

Anycase I didn't apply for it and assumed as a dealer they would apply themselves, I had no further contact from them and thought all was OK until I got the tax renewal through. Even then I thought I don't have the car and didn't do anything about it and was only when I got a reminder telling me I must register or risk being fined did I eventually send off a letter saying I no longer had the car and giving the details of the dealer.

Now I've recieved a letter saying I've been fined £80 and I#m still liable even if I don't have the car.

I've filled the declaration off advising what's happened and sent a copy of the purchase for my new car saying they have taken the old one as part exchange. But just wondering if I will still have to pay the fine.

Only with hindsight do you realise how totally niave you can be:(

Are you saying that you traded a car in (PE) and gave the dealer all paperwork relating to old car and did not keep the slip of paper(yellow) stating that you are no longer registered keeper, this should have been signed by both yourself and the motor trader(dealer). Then you should have posted that to DVLA. If you did not do that and they lost it, then you are still liable for the tax on that car and will have to pay the £80 fine for not taxing the car as the registered keeper. WE had that happen to us 3 times when we changed cars along time back and we too learned the hard way. But I did manage to sort it out as it was a recently introduced change in legislation at the time, so got let off. But it is not now. And pay up sooner rather than leave it or bailiffs can get involved and then costs dramatically increase.

Premier_2

JVRMac wrote: »

The one I purchased, when I took all the documentation for my old car in, they didn't check anything and I didn't even think about it.

Are you sure?

You bought a car without a V5?

Why, when you only bought the car in October, did you then send a letter of to DVLA to advise them you no longer had the car you purchased?

JVRMac

Apologies for not making myself clear. I signed the V5 doc for the new car I had purchased and then handed all my paperwork for the part exchanged car over a week later without getting the logbook signed.

I then recieved a renewal for the part ex'd car and only sent the letter advising them I had part ex'd it on receiving the reminder saying I would be fined.

Hope that makes sense?

Rover_Driver

As in post 3, did you and the dealer complete the relevant parts of the 'transfer to the trade' part of the V5C of the vehicle you part exchanged, and did you send it to DVLA?

If not, you appear to be liable.

waynedance

You did not send the log book to the dvla advising you were not going to be the registered keeper, you are liable.