Penalty Parking Ticket in Merseyrail car park

Stigy

Coupon-mad wrote: »

But that doesn't mean it's not worth a polite grovelly appeal first, especially if the OP is a regular commuter. On pepipoo such appeals have been accepted but not sure which TOC in those cases.

Of course, I agree. I can say first hand that some appeals made direct to TOCs have been successful, as they tend to want to please the customer above all else. It's easier in this case as the appeal will be directly to Merseyrail. Iv'e seen successful appeals even where a PPC manage the Car Park too. Where a PPC do manage the Car Park on behalf of a TOC, I always recommend an appeal direct to said TOC and not the PPC.

HO87

I hear what you're saying Stigy but MR, together with several other TOC's, are pushing the envelope with this approach.

There may well be breaches of byelaw(s) but the byelaws themselves are entirely clear about who may and may not be pursued for what.

The only person liable to a penalty such as the OP has been offered is the owner of a vehicle involved in a breach of BL's 14(1) to 14(3). There is no provision for a driver/person in charge of a vehicle involved in such a breach to be offered a penalty and as set out the only option is for the driver to be summonsed.

But what evidence will the TOC have as to who the driver was at the time?

Besides, several TOC car park signs purport to offer contractual parking. Doesn't this approach smack of having your cake and eating it?

Kite2010

The TOC has probably seen what a good deal the private companies are getting with the "penalty" fares, so they are kicking out the PPCs and doing it inhouse, falling back on the Railway Bylaws to get the money out of people.

I wonder how much Merseyrail and the like make from "penalty" charges in car-parks

vax2002

If he pleaded guilty then, you can not argue about what law applies, you have said everything they are about to stand up and say is true, before they have said it.
The case, lacked all relevant details that are mouse click researchable, it is possible that it was a Mersey rail ppc goon.