Front porch

Hello there,

We are at the very early stages of planning to have a front porch.
We are trying to not have to have planning permission and understand that we can have an exterior footprint of 3 square metres.
If we built to this spec, what would the inside of the porch measure, I have no idea the size of bricks and gaps in a double skin.

Thanks in advance
make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
and we will never, ever return.

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  • 27col
    27col Posts: 6,554 Forumite
    You do not really need a double skin for a small porch.
    However, for your information a standard cavity wall will be about 28cm from the outside to the inside. This includes a 5cm cavity between the two skins. A standard brick is about 10cm wide, it can vary a bit.
    What do you mean when you say the porch is 3 square meters. Do you mean that it is 3 meters square, which is an entirely different thing. 3 square metres is a small porch. 3metres square is a large porch. Which is it.
    I can afford anything that I want.
    Just so long as I don't want much.
  • iamcornholio
    iamcornholio Posts: 1,900 Forumite
    Typically, you should aim for an external dimension of 1.2 x 2.4 (4x8ft) as the 1.2 out gives enough room for a door to open with shuffling around it, and this shape does not look odd or out of proportion

    Don't bother with a cavity wall, just a double brick (ie one brick wall) and this will be about 230mm thick with plaster. This gives a nice little internal cill too.

    You could go for an all frame design with no walls, or minimum of 100mm brick and internal cladding of 50mm - timber, plastic or plasterboard if you want more space

    Remember that there are other criteria for porches if you want to build without formal permission - its not just about floor area
  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
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    edited 28 April 2012 at 9:49PM
    27col wrote: »
    You do not really need a double skin for a small porch.
    However, for your information a standard cavity wall will be about 28cm from the outside to the inside. This includes a 5cm cavity between the two skins. A standard brick is about 10cm wide, it can vary a bit.
    What do you mean when you say the porch is 3 square meters. Do you mean that it is 3 meters square, which is an entirely different thing. 3 square metres is a small porch. 3metres square is a large porch. Which is it.

    3 square metres.
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Typically, you should aim for an external dimension of 1.2 x 2.4 (4x8ft) as the 1.2 out gives enough room for a door to open with shuffling around it, and this shape does not look odd or out of proportion

    Don't bother with a cavity wall, just a double brick (ie one brick wall) and this will be about 230mm thick with plaster. This gives a nice little internal cill too.

    You could go for an all frame design with no walls, or minimum of 100mm brick and internal cladding of 50mm - timber, plastic or plasterboard if you want more space

    Remember that there are other criteria for porches if you want to build without formal permission - its not just about floor area

    Thanks for that, the reason for the porch is mainly for heat.
    We have warm air heating which has never been fed into the hall, there is a vent at the top of the stairs but the hall is always freezing in winter. Would a single brick wall do this. And yes, I read the other criteria about the height and the original main front door must stay in place. etc.
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
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