Been payed less then the Conditional Offer Letter & Final Offer Letter - NHS(

sarajulldin

Hi everyone, just needed some advice !

I have been in my new job within the NHS for 2 weeks. 3 months ago I received an conditional offer for the job with outlined my pay.

I then went through the usual pre-employment checks which the NHS carry out and got my final offer letter which also detailed the same pay details as the conditional offer.

I have been paid today, but according to my wage slip my yearly salary is lower then what was written in the letters.

I have queried this and been told its a mistake. I'm a trainee and have been told i come under Annex U of the Agenda for change. As my uni course lasts for two years, Annex U states I will get paid 70% of top of the spine point of the relevant band and in the second year will get 75%.

Both letters say 75% but also state i am being paid as accordance to AfC. Obviously contridicting itself.

What position am I in, in regards to this?

Any advise will be much appreciated !

ohreally

Its not as black and white as this, do you have the hand book to check where you fall?

Are you a union member?

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Trainees fall into three broad categories:

(i) trainees studying and/or working in the NHS who are already in possession of qualifications at a high level. Such staff are often studying for a higher level qualification and undertaking a role that can be assessed using the NHS Job Evaluation Scheme. An example of this category is a trainee psychologist
(ii) trainees who are undertaking a short period of learning on the job, usually less than 12 months. Typically, these staff enter whilst already in possession of the basic skills and knowledge to undertake the role. This type of trainee can also be evaluated using the NHS Job Evaluation Scheme. If profiles for this role exist, the lowest banded profile will be appropriate. During the period of traineeship the post holder should not move through the KSF foundation gateway. An example of this type of trainee is a trainee secratary
(iii) trainees who enter the NHS and undertake all their training whilst an employee. Typically, these staff develop their knowledge and skills significantly during a period of time measured in years. Given the significant change in knowledge and skills during the training period the use of job evaluation is not appropriate. Pay should be determined as a percentage of the pay for qualified staff.



For trainees covered by paragraph 2(iii) above, where periods of training last for between one and four years, pay will be adjusted as follows:
(iv) up to 12 months prior to completion of training: 75 per cent of the pay band maximum of the fully qualified rate
(v) more than one but less than two years prior to completion of training: 70 per cent of the pay band maximum of the qualified rate
(vi) more than two but less than three years prior to completion of training: 65 per cent of the pay band maximum for the qualified rate
(vii) more than three years from completion of training: 60 per cent of the pay band maximum for the qualified rate.

sarajulldin

ohreally wrote: »

Its not as black and white as this, do you have the hand book to check where you fall?

Are you a union member?

I only have the booklet as available on the internet which is exactly the same as my trust.

Yes I am a member of UNISON.

The booklet does make it clear that i will be on 70% and then 75% in the second year. It also makes it clear in both letters I come under Annex U of the AfC.

this is exactly what it says

"Your employment will be subject to the Agenda for Change terms and conditions of service. The salary scale for this post relates to Annex U, which is 75% of £**,*** per annum. Your starting salary will be £**,*** (based on AFC 2011 payscales) and your hours of work will be 37.5 per week"

ohreally

sarajulldin wrote: »

Yes I am a member of UNISON

Have a chat over a coffee with the chair of your service sector (assuming line manager won't resolve).

sarajulldin

I would come under "(V) more than one but less than two years prior to completion of training: 70 per cent of the pay band maximum of the qualified rate"

But as the letters states 75% but also mentions Annex U?

sarajulldin

ohreally wrote: »

Have a chat over a coffee with the chair of your service sector (assuming line manager won't resolve).

Yes Line manager has said sorry mistake made he will discuss with recruitment.

My colleague who has also been employed under the circumstances, has said that we should arrange a meeting with UNISON.

ohreally

sarajulldin wrote: »

My colleague who has also been employed under the circumstances, has said that we should arrange a meeting with UNISON.

Arrange the meeting tomorrow.

Bear in mind, letters can be authored by someone who doesn't understand what they're talking about or are dictated incorrect information.

Take your info from the handbook or local agreement if better.

sarajulldin

ohreally wrote: »

Arrange the meeting tomorrow.

Bear in mind, letters can be authored by someone who doesn't understand what they're talking about or are dictated incorrect information.

Take your info from the handbook or local agreement if better.

Both letters were written and signed (in pen, not electronic) by an Employment Services Administrator.

Thanks for your advice !