Parking in mother and child space

mildred1978

bigbulldog wrote: »

Utter rubbish I'm afraid.

So how else would you get these kids out?

Richie-from-the-Boro

mildred1978 wrote: »

I'd love to know how you think I should get my 2 year old out of a 4 inch gap in the door!

I'd love to know what kind of 'responsible' person would park anywhere leaving a 4" access which is less than the width of an adult wrist.

I'd also like to know how that same 'responsible' person was given a driving license in the first place, and how they have managed to keep it.

Unless of course that person drives a 4x4 - 4 litre gas guzzler and owns 2 sports cars. In which case the choice of vehicle is every individuals right, but if it creates a problem for them or their children - like any self~inflicted situation its of their own making. Certainly its not for the disabled who need the space to make room for those who don't need .. .. but selfishly want / wish / prefer comparative rights to the disabled by nature of their choice of motor vehicle.

You ask how I would suggest you get a 2 year old out of a 4" gap, I wouldn't even dream of telling you what to do. However if you ask me what I would do in the same circumstances I would have to admit its a problem of my own making and I've been an total eejit selfishly insisting on keeping on two sports cars when I have 4 children that can not be safety accommodated.

I would also not take my Chelsea tractor to a place that it won't fit into, particularly if it puts my kids at risk - god forbid and would never insist on parity of treatment with the disabled becuase that would be a silly suggestion, no .. .. I would choose a more appropriate mode of transport to suit my circumstances, sports cars the kids won't fit in particularly with the 'child seat' laws and a 4x4 that won't fit in the parking space would be a very silly choice for me to make wouldn't it.

Lum

mildred1978 wrote: »

One the first occasion they were in front of me going into the car park. You go past the parent and child spaces first and they ducked into the only vacant one. There were easily 15 or so disabled spaces free at the time.


The 2nd time it was a van driver with a van full of carpets but no BB or child who parked there. He reversed in, I asked him (through my open window) if he'd forgotten his baby. Red faced he drove out to find a normal space.

3rd time it was someone with a broken leg and his partner. Again no child. I asked if they realised they could park in the vacant disabled space 30ft away and they just grunted and went off to the shops (trackie bottoms half way down their @rses _pale_).

So the 2nd one wasn't a disabled person it was just your typical selfish idiot too lazy to park in a normal space.

3rd one, if they have a broken leg then they probably need the wider space as they are temporarily disabled. Problem is temporary disabilities don't qualify for a blue badge and this person likely thought they'd get a fine if they parked in a proper disabled bay. This sort of thing is actually a real problem for the newly disabled and temporarily disabled. No actual help is available for you at this point.

mildred1978

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

I'd love to know what kind of 'responsible' person would park anywhere leaving a 4" access which is less than the width of an adult wrist.

I'd also like to know how that same 'responsible' person was given a driving license in the first place, and how they have managed to keep it.

Unless of course that person drives a 4x4 - 4 litre gas guzzler and owns 2 sports cars. In which case the choice of vehicle is every individuals right, but if it creates a problem for them or their children - like any self~inflicted situation its of their own making. Certainly its not for the disabled who need the space to make room for those who don't need .. .. but selfishly want / wish / prefer comparative rights to the disabled by nature of their choice of motor vehicle.

You ask how I would suggest you get a 2 year old out of a 4" gap, I wouldn't even dream of telling you what to do. However if you ask me what I would do in the same circumstances I would have to admit its a problem of my own making and I've been an total eejit selfishly insisting on keeping on two sports cars when I have 4 children that can not be safety accommodated.

I would also not take my Chelsea tractor to a place that it won't fit into, particularly if it puts my kids at risk - god forbid and would never insist on parity of treatment with the disabled becuase that would be a silly suggestion, no .. .. I would choose a more appropriate mode of transport to suit my circumstances, sports cars the kids won't fit in particularly with the 'child seat' laws and a 4x4 that won't fit in the parking space would be a very silly choice for me to make wouldn't it.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Who has 4 children?? I have 1, and that's plenty, thanks!

Cars my kids won't fit in? Only 1 of my sportscars has 2 seats. The other has 4 seats and 4 doors, so I could take my son in it (and indeed I do). More often than not it's in the garage, so I take the (2 litre, more economical than a vauxhall vectra) 4x4. Shove that in your pipe and smoke it.

Yes, having my son was my choice. The cars I drive are my choice. What isn't my choice is sharing road (and car park) space with sanctimonious w@nkers who think a blue badge is a passport to doing whatever they damn well like. Dangerous corner, on a junction with double yellows? Perfect spot for a blue badge holder (and yes it happens).

I dropped my disabled gran off somewhere the other day and BB holders had parked on both sides of a single track lane, both sides double yellow lines. Nobody could get through, but because of the BBs they're 'entitled' to park in this inconsiderate way.

Well guess what, I've paid my dues mate, and I'll not be justifying any of my decisions to you or anyone else. I treat people as equals. I'm perfectly capable of parking my car (often with room only on one side because of (shock horror) having to open the doors).

Perhaps car parks should just put hatchings on one side of every space................. :think:

Richie-from-the-Boro

"""Perhaps car parks should just put hatchings on one side of every space................"""

- impractical and ignorant of the facts
- not all disabled are drivers, many in fact are 3 year olds
- many are AP's and have never owned a licence

"""I treat people as equals."""

- but the disabled are not equal to the able bodied
- their bodies or minds or illness takes away the equality
- but they would all buy you another 4x4 and a pair of sports cars if they could get their health back

"""Who has 4 children?? I have 1, and that's plenty, thanks""

- in that case substitute 1 child for 4 and all I said I stand by which was :

I wouldn't even dream of telling you what to do. However if you ask me what I would do in the same circumstances I would have to admit its a problem of my own making and I've been an total eejit selfishly insisting on keeping on two sports cars when I have even 1 child that can not be safety accommodated.

Lum

^^^ Also, hatchings on one side of a car assumes that there will only be one disabled person in a car. Two of our close friends are wheelchair-users and also non-drivers so it's quite conceivable that I'll be carrying all 3 of them at some point.

Even when there is only one disabled person in the car, it's annoying to be forced to drive forwards into a space in order to line up the disabled person with the hatchings.

mildred1978 wrote: »

I dropped my disabled gran off somewhere the other day and BB holders had parked on both sides of a single track lane, both sides double yellow lines. Nobody could get through, but because of the BBs they're 'entitled' to park in this inconsiderate way.

No they aren't.

shegirl

mildred1978 wrote: »

So how else would you get these kids out?

If you can get yourself out of the car you can get them out of the car..

Lum

Also, the title of this thread annoys the crap out of me, as it implies that only women ever look after kids or take them shopping. It's 2012, not 1950!

Maybe I'm a bit more sensitive to it, because I grew up with a single father, I dunno.

Sammylou2511

The other day at asda an elderly gent launched a verbal attack on me for using a disabled space. I had put bb in window so ignored his abuse and carried on. He was more infuriated that i ignored him but i didnt feel the need to justify myself. It was more laughable that he had stopped his car, he was travelling alone with his bb in window, and ran at a dazzling speed of knots that i could only dream of to do so!!!! At for at least 50 yards. The rants wrre usual, dont look like a cripple, he was an old man and deserved the space. Sadly disability is not ageist.

mrcow

shegirl wrote: »

If you can get yourself out of the car you can get them out of the car..

Well exactly. It's ridiculous.

I've got three kids and my car is a biggie. I've never had a problem getting them in and out - even when I had three under 5s.

If the gap is big enough for me to get myself out okay, then it's big enough for them.