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£16 billion in savings needs to be found

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  • TDPIX
    TDPIX Posts: 263 Forumite
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    Tax cuts? I'll have some of what you're on! There's only one way taxs are going and its not down.
    It was more wishful thinking ;) As in proper Govt spending cuts (double figure real terms cuts to most if not all departments), and then tax cuts where possible. I agree that the net effect at the moment of the Govt's fairly weak 'cuts' has been tax hikes.
  • Isis_Black
    Isis_Black Posts: 266 Forumite
    Funny though they red to cut £16 billion when they've just given the IMF £10billion

    We need to stop now and think about thus country first and get it back on its feet, stop giving money to Europe and stop giving money to the IMF
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  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    edited 23 April 2012 at 9:37PM
    I can find the savings for them. Piece of p**s.

    All councils publish individual spending over £500. I'd urge everyone to google "supplier payments over £500" and the name of your local council. Once you get over the shock of how much they spend on taxis you'll be further surprised at the amount of money transferred, on behalf the taxpayer, to registered charities.

    The problem the government have is that if they make the cuts (which they know are easy to find) the entitled British public won't vote for them.
  • C_Mababejive
    C_Mababejive Posts: 11,668 Forumite
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    Hang on..didnt we just get told we were lending the IMF another $10b notes..?
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
  • globalds
    globalds Posts: 9,431 Forumite
    We should just print more money ..It is the easy way out.
  • 10 billion to the IMF,4.5 billion on afghanistan,5%tax cut for millionairs and that about covers 16 billion:mad:
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    The management of the public perception of the austerity program has left a lot to be desired, by all parties.

    Since the election we have had almost continuous set of announcements of 'tough decisions' and yet as Generali points out, we are still spending MORE than in the previous fiscal year.

    I bet the public don't actually realise this. When the real cuts kick in fully, it will come as a shock to many.
  • C_Mababejive
    C_Mababejive Posts: 11,668 Forumite
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    The truth is that those in control only take notice when there is civil disturbance or industrial dispute becuase that really poses a threat to their positions. A few people bleating in the daily mail means nothing.
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    edited 24 April 2012 at 10:08AM
    GDB2222 wrote: »
    Clearly, for the UK as a whole, there was no saving whatsoever, but Customs and Excise were able to tell their masters that they have saved a few million pounds a year this way.
    This is the whole story. Social Services make cuts, but then there are more (unbudgeted) bed-blockers in hospitals. Even if the government saves money overall, it just means taxpayers having to pay for more things out of their own pockets. Nobody wins.

    We need more joined-up thinking. Governments should pay for things when it's better that way, and sometimes it is. The line we draw between the public and private sectors is nonsensical.

    But still the strange notion persists that the private sector generates wealth and the public sector dissipates it. I don't know where this baseless idea ever came from, but it doesn't seem to go away.

    I could easily find £16bn of spending that would be better not spent, but it would be private spending, not public spending. How absurd is it to think that the answer to the country's problems lies in decimating public services while zealously protecting the "right" of individuals to throw away "their" money any way they like?

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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    pqrdef wrote: »
    This is the whole story. Social Services make cuts, but then there are more (unbudgeted) bed-blockers in hospitals. Even if the government saves money overall, it just means taxpayers having to pay for more things out of their own pockets. Nobody wins.

    We need more joined-up thinking. Governments should pay for things when it's better that way, and sometimes it is. The line we draw between the public and private sectors is nonsensical.

    But still the strange notion persists that the private sector generates wealth and the public sector dissipates it. I don't know where this baseless idea ever came from, but it doesn't seem to go away.

    I could easily find £16bn of spending that would be better not spent, but it would be private spending, not public spending. How absurd is it to think that the answer to the country's problems lies in decimating public services while zealously protecting the "right" of individuals to throw away "their" money any way they like?

    No man is an island.

    Where does the money to pay for the public sector come from then?
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