Town & City Parking

buffy88

I was wondering if it's possible to obtain some advice relating to a parking ticket.

I received a parking ticket whilst parked in an NHS health centre car park (I'm a community nurse and was in the health centre for work related matters for one hour) from Town and City Parking although I had not parked on any yellow lines but they said it was not a designated parking bay. I have read that the best thing to do is to ignore these, however I only read this today. Initially I appealed the parking ticket saying that there were no lines and others were parked near me in similar spaces but had not received a ticket and I hadn't heard anything back. Today I got a letter from Whyte & Co. demanding £82 within 5 days (although the letter was sent 6 days ago) so I contacted T&CP and they have put it on hold for a week and are "allowing" me to pay £60 instead as it has been logged that my appeal was denied and they are adamant they sent a letter to me stating this.

Can anyone offer advice as to what I do now? I really don't think it's fair to pay the ticket when there were no yellow lines marked in the space. Can I appeal an appeal? Thanks in advance and I hope this hasn't been asked a million times before...:)

ManxRed

There is no appeal. That's just another method these companies use to make it look like they are real parking tickets. The good news for you is that they aren't real parking tickets at all.

What you have received is an invoice inviting you to pay for breaching the terms and conditions of a contract. Under contract law, the party who is pursuing you is entitled to pursue for the actual losses they incurred as a result of your breach. Which is nothing.

The ambiguous markings don't help their case either.

You WILL receive some scary sounding letters from them including, as you've now discovered, Whyte & Co. Debt Collectors (the date issue on the letter is a well-known part of the scam attempting to make you panic into contacting them and offering to pay immediately, they in all likelihood did indeed only post it a couple of days ago, but dated it earlier). These letters will proclaim allsorts, such as court action, CCJs and bailiffs, which in actuality will not happen as they have no case against you for damages. Ignore all these letters, and eventually they will give up and go away.

bondy_lad

as an ex community nurse myself (cpn) glad you have come here to this site,,purely and simply,, ignore, its a scam/fake ticket/not legal,,its a shame you contacted these clowns, but hey, we live and learn,,,quick lesson,,,,if you recieve a PENALTY charge notice on your car =legal/only given by police/traffic wardens,and must be paid,,ok,,now what you have is a PARKING charge notice=fake ticket/the company has no legal backing/scam/con/fiddle/nothing can or will be done to you all they want is your hard earned cash,its one of the biggest scams out there at present,,do not worry about ,,i am a nurse and criminal record,, this i assure cannot/will not happen,,because all you have recieved equates to loo paper,,so when you have finished doing with it what you usually do,,simply press flush and forget about it,,do not contact them again or have any dialogue,,finally do not wory yourself a jot about any more threat o grams you recieve,, all parties are part of the scam,,read our stickies,, then relax, chill, feet up,,save up for your next nmc fees,,£76-00 for what i say? anyway come back as often as u like for reassurance re this scam.

give_them_FA

Yes, you can appeal an appeal. Just place the matter before Judge Buffy88 who will say,

These people are nothing but money-grubbing scammers who have wrongly given you a ticket. You don't have to pay them a penny"

And that is the reality of the situation. The whole set up has NO LEGAL BASIS, it is an elaborate con trick, and if you stop playing their game (they think they have you well hooked) there is nothing they can or will do.

Old con- a letter arrives asking for more but the "kind" people at TCP will let you pay less if you hurry so there's no time to take advice....

Here is the bottom line. You do not owe these people one penny. You broke no laws. No private company has any right to fine a citizen- only councils and police have those powers, granted to them by Parliament.

What you have is people pretending to have authority when they actually have none. Getting debt collectors to write when there actually is no debt. It is all a large scale con.

You have played along with them so far, falling for their fake appeal system. Now you have been put wise.

All you need to do to get rid of these scroungers is to completely ignore them from now on. They cannot and will not do anything if you do that.

Except crawl back under their stone and never trouble you again, after they have finished sending you their pre-set series of letters designed to frighten you into paying something you do not owe.

Town and City never do court. They are too smart as they know they would not have a leg to stand on. So all they do is threaten.

When you realise that, you have beaten them.

Relax and ignore.

Coupon-mad

buffy88 wrote: »

I was wondering if it's possible to obtain some advice relating to a parking ticket.

I received a parking ticket whilst parked in an NHS health centre car park (I'm a community nurse and was in the health centre for work related matters for one hour) from Town and City Parking although I had not parked on any yellow lines but they said it was not a designated parking bay. I have read that the best thing to do is to ignore these, however I only read this today. Initially I appealed the parking ticket saying that there were no lines and others were parked near me in similar spaces but had not received a ticket and I hadn't heard anything back. Today I got a letter from Whyte & Co. demanding £82 within 5 days (although the letter was sent 6 days ago) so I contacted T&CP and they have put it on hold for a week and are "allowing" me to pay £60 instead as it has been logged that my appeal was denied and they are adamant they sent a letter to me stating this.

Can anyone offer advice as to what I do now? I really don't think it's fair to pay the ticket when there were no yellow lines marked in the space. Can I appeal an appeal? Thanks in advance and I hope this hasn't been asked a million times before...:)

The main question that's asked a million times is 'am I alraight to ignore these debt collector letters and is it really a scam?

The answer is yes but you seem to have still taken this seriously and not yet read the stickies and realised it is a scam? You are still calling it a 'parking ticket' and considering 'appeal'.

There is no appeal. This is a con, outed by Watchdog, National papers and Martin Lewis and this forum thousands of times over. You should never have bothered to reply, it's like a series of annoying phishing emails that's all.

See my signature, click back to the main forum index (just one click) and read the second-to-top sticky thread 'PPC letters & threats'. Watch the Watchdog clip on there and look at the preview of your scamogram letter-chain.

Just play snap with each letter, that's all. Nothing will happen, we have all ignored a fake PCN or twenty!

Only ever take seriously a real ticket from the Police, TFL or a Council (or occasionally a real penalty charge issued by a TOC in a train station car park). Anything thing else is not a real PCN at all.

You have NOT been fined. But you nearly got scammed.

Lone_Ranger_2

buffy88 wrote: »

demanding £82 within 5 days (although the letter was sent 6 days ago) so I contacted T&CP and they have put it on hold for a week and are "allowing" me to pay £60 instead

It's like a mugger saying I'll just take your phone and money but let you keep your watch if you don't shout help or fight back.

Don't pay them a penny and kick them in the goolys.

Kite2010

But off course if you take up their offer of paying only £60, they will write back saying "sorry it was late, you still owe us £45"

buffy88

Thanks for all the advice guys, I thought the whole thing seemed strange. I had presumed it was issued by the council, which was why I appealed and started to wonder when I called the council to enquire into my appeal they had no record of my ticket or details. I was worried when much of the advice posted was that you can deny it was the car owner who was driving it because I had kind of acknowledged it was me when I wrote my appeal letter.

So anyways thanks again and I'll sit tight and ignore all the letters that will no doubt come!

bondy_lad

well said,come back anytime.