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  • Bluemeanie_2
    Bluemeanie_2 Posts: 1,076 Forumite
    Thanks Fluffnutter, you have been very helpful. If it comes to it, I think I would opt for the more expensive one - depending on what the Docs say of course. Hubby is worried about sperm results next Tues (we were originally told a week but when I dropped it off they said two weeks) because if there is nothing up with me, it is just sperm issue, he thinks I will leave him for someone who can. So trying to deal with him now!
    I'm never offended by debate & opinions. As a wise man called Voltaire once said, "I disagree with what you say, but will defend until death your right to say it."
    Mortgage is my only debt - Original mortgage - January 2008 = £88,400, March 2014 = £47,000 Chipping away slowly! Now saving to move.
  • fluffnutter
    fluffnutter Posts: 23,179 Forumite
    Bluemeanie wrote: »
    Thanks Fluffnutter, you have been very helpful. If it comes to it, I think I would opt for the more expensive one - depending on what the Docs say of course. Hubby is worried about sperm results next Tues (we were originally told a week but when I dropped it off they said two weeks) because if there is nothing up with me, it is just sperm issue, he thinks I will leave him for someone who can. So trying to deal with him now!

    Yeah, I know. It can be a real blow to masculinity to feel that the little swimmers aren't up to the job and some men struggle with this. In cases of unexplained fertility a third's thought to be due to the woman, a third due to the man, and the remaining third due to problems with both of them.

    It's interesting to consider whether women feel the same if they have really poor egg quality. Do they feel 'less of a woman' and worry that their partners will leave them? Some do I expect.

    The fact is a relationship is about far more than the eggs and sperm you produce and try to remind your OH of this. ICSI's fabulous (it even works with dead sperm!) and there's no reason why your husband won't be the father of your children one day :)
    "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell" - Edward Abbey.
  • dizziblonde
    dizziblonde Posts: 4,276 Forumite
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    VK-2008 wrote: »
    thanks qquaver is that something that u done urself by charting or does the hospital encorage u to do it, kinda getting nervous but excited about it,

    was anyone tld they have to be a certain weight for this too work or does anyone have any experience of being slightly overweight with it working or not
    i have so many questions eeeekk

    If it's like my NHS trust (yours sounds distinctly more on the generous side though - our area is 1 IVF and you're done territory), then there are fairly strict BMI guidelines you'll have to hit to get fertility treatment... reason we never ever got the referral done and in the end I concieved by sheer "I am going to do this, I WILL have a baby or a bump by X date - this is our last shot" chaining hubby to the bed-power (granted doesn't work for people with actual reasons for infertility - ours was always just unexplained).
    Little miracle born April 2012, 33 weeks gestation and a little toughie!
  • Bluemeanie_2
    Bluemeanie_2 Posts: 1,076 Forumite
    Thanks Fluffnutter. I think he feels this way because he already has two children and I don't have any, and his snip was voluntary so he feels it his all his fault. If there's nothing up with me, so technically it will be his "fault" for having the snip, I've told him I won't leave him. There is far to many options to explore first, then I don't think I would even if we couldn't have kids together. But he is being insecure bless him.
    I'm never offended by debate & opinions. As a wise man called Voltaire once said, "I disagree with what you say, but will defend until death your right to say it."
    Mortgage is my only debt - Original mortgage - January 2008 = £88,400, March 2014 = £47,000 Chipping away slowly! Now saving to move.
  • VK-2008
    VK-2008 Posts: 926 Forumite
    I think both male and female feel let down in themselves when they think the problem is at their end.
    i have always said to dh if we can't concieve either naturally or with help then we would look to adopt and even if we are lucky enough to have even one child we would no hesitate in adopting to enlarge our family.
    well i am luckymy bmi is only slightly over only to lose between 1-2 stones, i managed before on slimming world and really enjoyed the healthy eating plan, however some people have said to speed process up try slim fast for two weeks, most people i hve spoke to lost a stone in 2 weeks so that would kick start me in the right direction.
    starting to get nervous and excited want to get things moving, i hope the docs get in quickly and keep me updated
    :A VK :A
  • Bluemeanie_2
    Bluemeanie_2 Posts: 1,076 Forumite
    Just thought I'd update. We had the results from Hubby's sperm test and it is a big fat 0.

    Can they surgically remove the sperm from his bits and then we still have IUI?

    Or do they say just go straight towards IVF/ICSI?

    Have been in contact with CARE at Nottingham but the receptionist isn't being very helpful over email!
    I'm never offended by debate & opinions. As a wise man called Voltaire once said, "I disagree with what you say, but will defend until death your right to say it."
    Mortgage is my only debt - Original mortgage - January 2008 = £88,400, March 2014 = £47,000 Chipping away slowly! Now saving to move.
  • fluffnutter
    fluffnutter Posts: 23,179 Forumite
    Bluemeanie wrote: »
    Just thought I'd update. We had the results from Hubby's sperm test and it is a big fat 0.

    Can they surgically remove the sperm from his bits and then we still have IUI?

    Or do they say just go straight towards IVF/ICSI?

    Have been in contact with CARE at Nottingham but the receptionist isn't being very helpful over email!

    I should imagine that the volumes they'll get by removing directly from his bollies will be too small to risk IUI. Plus they can't tell what the quality is like (morphology and motility) until they get those swimmers under a microscope. I'm no expert but I would imagine that the sperm they manage to get by direct extraction would be better off using for ICSI.

    You're going to need to talk to a specialist to get a definitive answer (not the receptionist!).
    "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell" - Edward Abbey.
  • Bluemeanie_2
    Bluemeanie_2 Posts: 1,076 Forumite
    I should imagine that the volumes they'll get by removing directly from his bollies will be too small to risk IUI. Plus they can't tell what the quality is like (morphology and motility) until they get those swimmers under a microscope. I'm no expert but I would imagine that the sperm they manage to get by direct extraction would be better off using for ICSI.

    You're going to need to talk to a specialist to get a definitive answer (not the receptionist!).

    Thanks Fluffnutter you have been so helpful all along my "journey". Sorry, I didn't ask them those kinds of questions as I know what you're saying about having to speak to a specialist (I wasn't very clear, having re read it it looks like I asked reception medical questions!) They are very good at putting a list of costs on their website and I praise them for being so upfront, but I emailed reception asking if you have this procedure do you have to pay for this etc and she just said see website. Their cost list would be so much more helpful if they put it into context (i.e. If you have ICSI and donate eggs, you still have to pay for this screening, then this, then this).

    Just need to know how much to save if we go this route. What I wanted to know is as well, if they can't do anything with Hubby's sperm, I don't want ICSI/IVF with clinic donor sperm. As we will just go to a private sperm donor. So think I am going to just pay the £170 and have a consultation to ask all these questions. (I essentially want Hubby's sperm tested before they even touch me, as if it's not good enough, I don't want to go this route at all)
    I'm never offended by debate & opinions. As a wise man called Voltaire once said, "I disagree with what you say, but will defend until death your right to say it."
    Mortgage is my only debt - Original mortgage - January 2008 = £88,400, March 2014 = £47,000 Chipping away slowly! Now saving to move.
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