finance agreement

bod1467

I have. You obviously haven't (properly). Bear in mind that YOU have not provided any verification/source. OTHER people have, but not YOU.

Flyboy152

arcon5 wrote: »

The Road Traffic Act is not majorly specific about what makes a car unroadworthy.

Section 75
Section 41 is not specific, but refers to areas which could be used to consider a vehicle unroadworthy





I don't think they would. I don't think a single one of these problems would necessarily deem the vehicle unroadworthy. However, if all of these problems occurred at once it could be argued the vehicle is unroadworthy.

Trying to find a garage that would accept a car back on the basis the wiper needs replacing will be a bit of a challenge!




Anyway, this whole thread seems to have gone way off topic

Yes I know, I was being flippant, Unholyangel seems to think that if the car is "unroadworthy," for example, not MOT compliant, the buyer should be able to rescind the contract, purely on the basis that the car is unroadworthy. As has been pointed out, a couple of times now, there is no specific definition of "unroadworthy," therefore the general benchmark used, in layman's terms, is if the vehicle would pass an MOT or not. If Unholyangel wants to make statements such as, "it is a criminal offence to sell an unroadworthy car," she ought to tell us what the law defines as unroadworthy.

Flyboy152

bod1467 wrote: »

I have. You obviously haven't (properly).

Oh for flip's sake, really?

Bear in mind that YOU have not provided any verification/source. OTHER people have, but not YOU.

And you couldn't say, "Oops, sorry, didn't read the thread properly?"

What a silly little game to play.

bod1467

Pot. Kettle. etc.

Flyboy152

unholyangel wrote: »

Ah but subsection (b) doesn't apply to dealers. Not unless they can prove they made the buyer aware that to use the vehicle on the road would be unlawful. It is not enough to simply assume/believe the car isn't going to be used in the UK/used until fixed.

But as you just said and as i said several posts ago, irrelevant to the OP and if we start getting into discussing the ins and outs of every set of imaginable circumstances, we'll be here forever. Whats even sillier is that I'm pretty sure everyone (or near enough everyone) is in agreement it would apply to the OP (if the car is unroadworthy - obviously we haven't established that).

There wasn't even the slightest indication that it was.

unholyangel

traz39 wrote: »

feel like ive started a war

Dont worry about it. Not so much a war as just someone getting their pants in a twist.

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Yes I know, I was being flippant, Unholyangel seems to think that if the car is "unroadworthy," for example, not MOT compliant, the buyer should be able to rescind the contract, purely on the basis that the car is unroadworthy. As has been pointed out, a couple of times now, there is no specific definition of "unroadworthy," therefore the general benchmark used, in layman's terms, is if the vehicle would pass an MOT or not. If Unholyangel wants to make statements such as, "it is a criminal offence to sell an unroadworthy car," she ought to tell us what the law defines as unroadworthy.

Where did I say that not MOT compliant = unroadworthy? Please, quote me And the Road Traffic Act does define it....so no need for you to use your own definition. Also in post #20 I quoted from advice.org.uk and in that paragraph they also detail what makes a car unroadworthy (which happens to be the same as the RTA, wonder why). It is that same document that makes the statement "It is a criminal offence to sell an unroadworthy car"

So.....I will repeat:

unholyangel wrote: »

Perhaps you need to take a look at the act optimist refers to above so you can check what the law says makes a car unroadworthy

And perhaps you need to check over my previous posts so you can see what I have actually said rather than putting words in my mouth. Then again.....can't teach an old dog new tricks, right?

Flyboy152

What is the matter with you? All you need to do is say, "oops, I made a mistake, it is not a criminal offence to sell an unroadworthy car." Why is that so difficult to do?

unholyangel

Flyboy152 wrote: »

What is the matter with you? All you need to do is say, "oops, I made a mistake, it is not a criminal offence to sell an unroadworthy car." Why is that so difficult to do?

You want advice.org.uk and the government to say they made a mistake? Guess you better email them or write a letter then telling them they're wrong and you're right.

Flyboy152

unholyangel wrote: »

You want advice.org.uk to say they made a mistake? Guess you better email them or write a letter then telling them they're wrong and you're right.

So, I am guessing the answer to my question is, "yes, it is too difficult to say."

unholyangel

Flyboy152 wrote: »

So, I am guessing the answer to my question is, "yes, it is too difficult to say."

Well you tell me, you're the one who is insisting that the Road Traffic Act and Citizens Advice is wrong and you're right. So tell me, is it really that difficult to say you're wrong flyboy? Or do you have some secret credentials that means you know better than the experts?