School appeals - help offered

sheramber

The purpose of the  deadline  is  to set a date to finalise applications to allow processing to begin.

I they are going to take amendments after that  date what is the point of a deadline.

No matter what date is set someone will just miss it. How late do they make it- a month before term starts, a week before , a day before?

MissA123

Hi, please please can anyone help?

My daughter wasn't offered a place at the primary school we chose, she attends the nursery but apparently thats not any advantage to gaining a place at the school.
Places are allocated by the Local Authority, via a random allocation unless your application falls into any of the 3 priority criteria; Special Educational Needs with an EHCP, Looked After/In Care or a parent is employed by the school. 
We do not have a ‘sibling’ criterion in our policy and places are not awarded on that basis. ‘Faith’, ‘distance’ or ‘social/medical needs’ criteria are not within our policy and we do not have a catchment area. Nursery children are not given priority.

What grounds can i put down for appeal, i wanted my daughter to transition from nursery to school to high school n 6th form. 

Its just the perfect school for her to attend, n she doesnt have any medical needs. Please help

Spendless

MissA123 said:

Hi, please please can anyone help?

My daughter wasn't offered a place at the primary school we chose, she attends the nursery but apparently thats not any advantage to gaining a place at the school.
Places are allocated by the Local Authority, via a random allocation unless your application falls into any of the 3 priority criteria; Special Educational Needs with an EHCP, Looked After/In Care or a parent is employed by the school. 
We do not have a ‘sibling’ criterion in our policy and places are not awarded on that basis. ‘Faith’, ‘distance’ or ‘social/medical needs’ criteria are not within our policy and we do not have a catchment area. Nursery children are not given priority.

What grounds can i put down for appeal, i wanted my daughter to transition from nursery to school to high school n 6th form. 

Its just the perfect school for her to attend, n she doesnt have any medical needs. Please help

Tbh unfortunately it doesn't sound like you have any grounds. If they allocate places just on a lottery basis unless you fall into their exceptions, some children's names will come out of the hat, others won't. Is the school usually over subscribed? You could go on a waiting list, ask how one operates and where you'd be on it  

pinkshoes

MissA123 said:

Hi, please please can anyone help?

My daughter wasn't offered a place at the primary school we chose, she attends the nursery but apparently thats not any advantage to gaining a place at the school.
Places are allocated by the Local Authority, via a random allocation unless your application falls into any of the 3 priority criteria; Special Educational Needs with an EHCP, Looked After/In Care or a parent is employed by the school. 
We do not have a ‘sibling’ criterion in our policy and places are not awarded on that basis. ‘Faith’, ‘distance’ or ‘social/medical needs’ criteria are not within our policy and we do not have a catchment area. Nursery children are not given priority.

What grounds can i put down for appeal, i wanted my daughter to transition from nursery to school to high school n 6th form. 

Its just the perfect school for her to attend, n she doesnt have any medical needs. Please help

I'm thinking this is a school in an area with other schools, but gets lots of applications, so rather than go by distance to the school, they make it a little fairer and do random allocation, otherwise house prices in catchment go through the roof.

What were the second and third choices you put down? Did you get one? Is the school you have been allocated within walking distance?

You don't really have any grounds to appeal. Why not go and take a look at the school you have been given? You may also find it is good...

Mrsn

pinkshoes said:

MissA123 said:

Hi, please please can anyone help?

My daughter wasn't offered a place at the primary school we chose, she attends the nursery but apparently thats not any advantage to gaining a place at the school.
Places are allocated by the Local Authority, via a random allocation unless your application falls into any of the 3 priority criteria; Special Educational Needs with an EHCP, Looked After/In Care or a parent is employed by the school. 
We do not have a ‘sibling’ criterion in our policy and places are not awarded on that basis. ‘Faith’, ‘distance’ or ‘social/medical needs’ criteria are not within our policy and we do not have a catchment area. Nursery children are not given priority.

What grounds can i put down for appeal, i wanted my daughter to transition from nursery to school to high school n 6th form. 

Its just the perfect school for her to attend, n she doesnt have any medical needs. Please help

I'm thinking this is a school in an area with other schools, but gets lots of applications, so rather than go by distance to the school, they make it a little fairer and do random allocation, otherwise house prices in catchment go through the roof.

What were the second and third choices you put down? Did you get one? Is the school you have been allocated within walking distance?

You don't really have any grounds to appeal. Why not go and take a look at the school you have been given? You may also find it is good...

I’m getting the impression that missa123 might not have applied elsewhere... hopefully that’s not the case.

Sadly I agree with the other’s you have no basis for an appeal (though you are of course entitled to still lodge one) if it’s over subscribed and they have followed their admissions criteria there is very little that can be done I’m afraid.

sheramber

 i wanted my daughter to transition from nursery to school to high school n 6th form. 

And , presumably, she will. Just not through the school you preferred.

Who should give up their place to allow your daughter to attend that school?

Savvy_Sue

Always worth asking to go on the waiting list and checking where you are on it (you may go up as well as down if children in one of the three priority groups move into the area). But agreed, can't see any grounds for appeal, which really depend on the LEA not carrying out the process correctly. 

MissA123

Im on the waiting list, but again they dont have an order on the waiting list apparently, its random allocation again , the only thing i can think of is the school has 56 places in reception and the class sizes I think can hold up to 30, im just gutted it was the school i preferred, some of her nursery friends will be there and i know she will make friends elsewhere but it was the school i moved to the area for, sad thing is if i still lived out the Borough i might have had a better chance to get a place! I moved her nurseries etc so she could join the nursery so she had a better chance of getting into the school, she has a place at another school which wasn't ideal not walking distance probably a 5 minute car journey but not really a school i envisaged. 

Spendless

Usually a nursery doesn't act as a feeder to the school, even if it is ran by the school. It's always worth reading the small print. It's also worth putting a less popular but acceptable to you down as your last choice, so you at least get that if refused other options,

Do you mean it's a one class per school year and there have been 56 applicants? If so it was always going to be roughly 50/50 if you got in. Keep on the waiting list, but I really wouldn't get too hung up on the 'dream' school. I also moved areas (catchment is the main criteria here after children in care and EHCPs) to a school where I'm an ex pupil, which got some of the best GCSEs in the area. I've lived to regret that decision, head teachers changed, my son got through , though not at his absolute best potential and has been a lot happier since moving away to Uni and my 'doddle of a child' youngest ended up with so much school trauma she's still having to get help for it now aged 18.  

Savvy_Sue

Spendless said:

but I really wouldn't get too hung up on the 'dream' school. 

This, and especially don't let a child pick up on any feelings of doom and disaster, oh no now what's going to happen? 

Calm and collected, yes the child may be going to a different school from some of their friends, but they will make others, and if they live close to some of the nursery friends they can still be friends, may see each other at out of school activities (Beavers / Rainbows etc). 

I actually chose schools which other people would have refused to use, and had absolutely no problems at all, whereas some of the things which went on at 'first choice' schools made my hair curl! (Just one example, a Mum was asked to collect her child early, before and end of school Assembly, while the child was using a wheelchair, because it wasn't 'convenient' to have her taken into the hall by the wheelchair accessible route ... my friend took up the cudgels on THAT mum's behalf, but I was pretty sure it would never have arisen at our school!)

Head teachers change, schools change, go on the waiting list and then just make the best of it if you get a different outcome to the one you'd hoped for.