Bariatric Surgery

Gingernutty

Quillion wrote: »

When I go on pc later I will post a link.

You could try
https://www.wls.org
my username is jalo
Hope this helps it is a very good site xx

Um, perhaps they could try http://www.wlsinfo.org.uk/ instead?

You have to be a member to even view the forums, though.

Pennylane

Rebob wrote: »

I know that but these are often the people that find it harder to get the surgery and have to jump through more hoops. The only thing is they seem to find a way around any obstacles by such as contacting their MP's etc.

For surgery to work you must have a lot of support and your head in the right place. x

I know that's only a figure of speech but it always makes me laugh ... little tubby people jumping through hoops.:rotfl:

I don't quite understand what the rest of your post means. All the people I know who had the op got it fairly easily. They came within NICE guidelines and didn't need to involve MPs etc.

How do people get their head in the right place and where is all this support? My post demonstrates that neither are readily available or people would not be sabotaging their ops and they are doing. Patients generally see a member of the psychological team prior to their op and that is literally a few minutes. There is no support afterwards that I'm aware of.

There was a woman on TV not long ago who had had the bypass op and she said she was left high and dry with no support at all. She had it on the NHS, as do thousands of others. She said the pains she got in her chest sometimes were so bad that she truly believed she was having a heart attack and on 3 occasions her family had called an ambulance. She said she had lost loads of weight but she was no healthier because her previous ailments (aching knees, sweat rashes etc) had been replaced with new ones like gallstones, diarrhoea, extreme tiredness and anxiety.

trumpton

I occasionally catch a program called, 'My Big Fat Operation' which follows 2 people each show who are having weight-loss surgery (varies between by pass and sleeve). It's clearly not an easy option and it does seem to work, at least for the ones on the program.

I really think it should be a last resort though, for people who have other medical conditions which would be greatly relieved by fast weight-loss. I know someone who works in the NHS and she has found that most of her patients who have undergone wls have regained large amounts of weight because their food issues are psychological and they haven't addressed them.

I would think a lot of research and a joining a support group would be essential to make it a success.

Pennylane

trumpton wrote: »

I occasionally catch a program called, 'My Big Fat Operation' which follows 2 people each show who are having weight-loss surgery (varies between by pass and sleeve). It's clearly not an easy option and it does seem to work, at least for the ones on the program.

I really think it should be a last resort though, for people who have other medical conditions which would be greatly relieved by fast weight-loss. I know someone who works in the NHS and she has found that most of her patients who have undergone wls have regained large amounts of weight because their food issues are psychological and they haven't addressed them.

I would think a lot of research and a joining a support group would be essential to make it a success.

Spot on! It also endorses what I was saying about the person I know who still eats loads of junk food and is regaining weight. I remember before she got her op she spent every night for about 2 weeks having a "my last fish and chips" "my last Chinese meal" "my last chocolate cake" and she was adamant that after her op she would eat differently. Didn't last though and she has not re-educated herself in any way at all. She still doesn't eat a healthy or a blanced diet.

repeatoffender

Thank you everyone i think both for and against have shown me that it is more about what is in my head than my stomach - which echoes what the seminar was saying. I thought that the difference with surgery would be that i would not put the weight back on as my problem has been keeping it off. Before the seminar i had no idea that i would need to make so many changes post surgery and that you could put weight back on - though if you put 2 or 3 stone on then thats still better than carying around an extra 10. I think that if i put into action those changes now then i can reduce my bmi to a level where my sleep apnoea and my risk of diabetes and other hereditory illness is gone. I know from past experience that the effects of sleep apnoea no longer bother me at a bmi of 35 and at 31/32 my blood tests are good - this means to get to bmi 31 i have 4 -41/2 stone to lose - at that point my skin is wrinkly and i dont want to go any lower as i start to worry more about my skin getting looser. The photos of before and after scare me to bits and unlike some i dont have many hang ups about my looks but the last time i lost the weight my skin concerned me and i was actually happier when i put a stone or so back on because i started to fill out again a bit, does that make sense. My friends have been horrified that i have been referred and with the help of you generous people on here i have realised that it is not like on TV you dont have the surgery / eat off a teaplate / lose weight / have a nip and a tuck and live happy ever after - the fight with food is still in your head. I am hoping that this has been the shock that i need to motivate myself into making the changes now and i will come back to this thread and use this as a tool to remind myself.

Thanks for the links to the website and i might pop up on a PM in the future if the offer still stands. :A

Pennylane

RepeatOffender - Best of luck with whatever you decide to do.:)

I can see you are doing serious research. Some people say "I have done all my research" and they don't mean that at all. What they mean is they've looked into it and picked out bits that interest them and ignored other stuff that they don't like the sound of.

The person I have spoken about said she had thoroughly researched it yet once she developed a vitamin deficiency hadn't got a clue what was going on. She also hadn't got a clue about vitamins in general and how vital they are to your health and why she should be eating foods which are good for her.