No hot water!!!!

Gorgeous_George

mistyarthur wrote:

... have you ever had an ice cold shave at 6 in the morning!...at least it wakes me up. lol

Yes thank you. It was my 21st birthday and I was in the Welsh mountains on a 'training' course. I learnt that it was a stupid thing to do.

The shave was refreshing.



GG

franklee

prudryden wrote:

There are a lot of self-promoted gurus on the landlordzone who do a good job and give excellent advice, but none of them are infallible and 100% right 100% of the time.

Actually it was you calling him a guru last week ... I don't think anyone one on landlordzone promotes themselves as such.

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=4408000&postcount=7

prudryden wrote:

Apaterson This is going to go head to head with Paul F, one of the gurus on Landlordzone. I personally think Shelter is wrong and agree with Paul F. But it remains to be seen.

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=4411715&postcount=17

prudryden wrote:

Bunny - Some of the major contributors and very knowledgable posters on Landlordzone have also now agreed that, if you are in periodic tenancy, you may leave at any time with the rent paid up to the time you leave. From their comments, I understand that you do not need to give a months notice.

Also, be sure to read Franklee's post above. Paul F. is an influential member of the letting industry.

But back to the hot water, it does make sense to me as when you think about it, which other business would charge a customer full price for a partial service? Say you went on holiday and due to a boiler breakdown there was no hot water for two weeks. Would you still be happy to pay full price for the holiday if the owner gave you a kettle and an assurance that despite their best efforts the plumber won't be able to do the fix for two weeks? What if you find out that the boiler was old and prone to breaking down and yet the hotel had taken a business decision not to replace it, would you still be happy yo pay full price - or - would you be asking for a discount? Who here would really pay full price for a holiday like that?

At the end of the day if the landlord chooses to soldier on with an old, unreliable or cheap boiler or selects a bad tradesman for the repair or chooses not to have emergency callout insurance cover then it isn't the tenant who should suffer for that decision. Other business have appliances or other unexpected failures and they don't treat their customers like that.

PS I think offering gym membership is a good idea, I would be happy with that if it provided access to a good shower every day.

thesaint

Here we go again:wall:

franklee

Gorgeous_George wrote:

Personally, I would make a token payment as a gesture of goodwill providing rent had been paid on time and without a fuss. Maybe a week's free rent but I am so genorous there's no wonder I hardly break even!

Well that's somewhere between a 50% and a 25% discount as mistyarthur has been a month with problems and two weeks with no hot water at all. (So a weeks free rent is a 25% discount taken over a month or a 50% discount taken over two weeks.) Seems reasonable enough to me.

In cash terms I make that 132 quid against mistyarthur's usual 575 pcm rental payment. Again reasonable IMO.

ormus

a mate had the same problem in his rented terraced house, (400 per month). the private landlord has been very slow to do anything about the very old boiler installed. it had broken down months ago.
when my mate spoke to the local council about it, they said the landlord did not have to supply any form of heating! inc hot water.
as long as they had water and electric supply, then the rest was up to the tenant.

thesaint

ormus wrote:

a mate had the same problem in his rented terraced house, (400 per month). the private landlord has been very slow to do anything about the very old boiler installed. it had broken down months ago.
when my mate spoke to the local council about it, they said the landlord did not have to supply any form of heating! inc hot water.
as long as they had water and electric supply, then the rest was up to the tenant.

What did your mate do?
I hope he didn't tell his landlord what the council said, if he talked to his landlord tactfully, he should get it resolved.