Puppy Food

Rev

This is why not to feed Wagg

http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/showproduct.php?product=1632&cat=all

It's not wings they put into as opposed to breasts of chicken. The meat and animal derivatives in Wagg is beaks, feathers, what ever falls on the floor, feet etc.

It's not about price per bag, it's about price per day. Work that out to see the true cost of feeding.

This is a great thread to look through for comparisons


http://www.petforums.co.uk/dog-health-nutrition/189896-dry-dog-food-index.html

Rev

pawsies wrote: »

Wolves eat the whole carcass, they don't pick bits off that don't suit them. Not eating feet/beaks etc is a western human idea. Animals don't care.

But that's not the point.

Tey eat the WHOLE animal. So they get the good parts, IE the parts that contain the actual nutrition. And the bad parts that don't.

If you feed a food like Wagg, bakers etc they get only the waste parts of the animal and none of the good parts.

I have no problem with dogs eating feet/beaks etc. I do have a problem with them eating ONLY beaks/feet etc.

And that's the problem with low quality food. All crap and fillers.

It's not about spending a ton of cash on food. It's about I getting a good with decent ingredients. Skinners duck and rice is £20 pet 15kg, that's not expensive. But it's a world better than Wagg quality wise.

roxalana

Definitely not considering Wagg - just need to be sensible about the cost i.e. not super cheaper but not gold plated either. Whilst I'm sure there are cheaper places than Pets at Home to buy Royal Canin, they sell this one for £35.99 for 8kg!

I'm just looking for something good that costs a bit less without compromising too much!

That pet forum link is good.

Rev

roxalana wrote: »

Definitely not considering Wagg - just need to be sensible about the cost i.e. not super cheaper but not gold plated either. Whilst I'm sure there are cheaper places than Pets at Home to buy Royal Canin, they sell this one for £35.99 for 8kg!

I'm just looking for something good that costs a bit less without compromising too much!

That pet forum link is good.

I'd not go with royal canin either. It's a mid range food with a super premium price tag. The review site I linked you too has reviews of royal canin too. None of which are highly rated.

Wainwrights from pets at home is decent, so is arden grange, simpsons, all run about £30 a bag.

Don't worry about puppy food, once you're feeding a good quality food the only difference is the fact you pay £10 extra for them to print the word puppy on the bag. Dogs in the wild don't have 'puppy' food, they do fine on the same food their parents have.

Vetuk is usually the cheapest around and berriewoods if you want to buy in bulk. Skinners duck and rice or salmon and rice is about the best budget food around.

And don't be fooled by 'fresh meat' on a pet food label, what you want is 'chicken meal, lamb meal,' IE if it's a chicken based food the first ingredient should read 'chicken meat meal' not fresh chicken (they add the fresh chicken because it looks good to us, remember kibble is dehydrated and fresh meat is 70% water, once you take the water out you have a tiny amount of meat ended up in the kibble - fresh meat is only okay if there's also a good amount of meat meal in there too), not 'derivatives of animal origins, and 4% chicken.

Avoid maize, brown (or whole) rice is easier digested, go grain free if you can afford it (simpsons grain free is £35), dogs can't digest grains, they are converted to glucose to enable digestion. And then they come right out the other end.

It's a mine field but a few simple rules followed will see you right when picking a food.

Rev

Just remembered this link, excellent site

http://www.whichdogfood.co.uk/

faded_flowers

Rev wrote: »

Don't worry about puppy food, once you're feeding a good quality food the only difference is the fact you pay £10 extra for them to print the word puppy on the bag.

Not true. Good quality puppy foods usually have extra protein and fats to support growth - the levels then drop in adult food. Dependent on the brand they will also contain useful supplements like DHA, Large Breed foods will be tailored for slower growth etc etc.

Rev

faded_flowers wrote: »

Not true. Good quality puppy foods usually have extra protein and fats to support growth - the levels then drop in adult food. Dependent on the brand they will also contain useful supplements like DHA, Large Breed foods will be tailored for slower growth etc etc.

Orijen is considered (purely ingredients wise - I know not all foods suit all dogs) the best kibble available.

Orijen puppy

Deboned chicken (23%), Dehydrated chicken (17%), deboned salmon (9%), dehydrated turkey (6%), dehydrated herring (6%), russet potato, chicken fat (5%), sweet potato, peas, dehydrated turkey (3%), whole eggs (3%), chicken liver (2%), deboned lake whitefish (2%), deboned walleye (2%), alfalfa, pea fibre, deboned herring (2%), organic kelp, pumpkin, chicory root, carrots, spinach, turnip greens, apples, cranberries, blueberries, licorice root, angelica root, fenugreek, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, chamomile, dandelion, summer savory, rosemary.

Orijen adult

Deboned chicken (25%), dehydrated chicken (17%), deboned salmon (10%), dehydrated turkey (7%), dehydrated herring (7%), russet potato, peas, sweet potato, deboned turkey (3%), whole eggs (3%), chicken liver (2%), deboned lake whitefish (2%), deboned walleye (2%), alfalfa, pea fiber, chicken fat (2%), organic kelp, pumpkin, chicory root, carrots, spinach, turnip greens, apples, cranberries, blueberries, licorice root, angelica root, fenugreek, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, chamomile, dandelion, summer savory, rosemary.

Puppy analysis

I'm not seeing a big difference.

Yes, wagg, bakers etc will have different ingredients because puppies have different nutritional needs to adults and their food is so crap the adult food won't provide for the puppy.

Which is why I said once you're feeding a good quality food puppy food becomes irrelevant because the ingredients they use are good enough and have the needed nutritional values to provide for any life stage.