Quick QN-PWC earns over £60k and CB

IsItJustMe_2

Hello,

Just pondering, PWC earns over £60k per annum, obviously now can't claim CB.

As the CSA use CB as the 'stick' to beat us all by, was wondering how they would now deal with issues such as child leaving home and moving in with nrp when no CB is being claimed by PWC. And if child leaves education early or pwc home etc

we would be in the fortunate position of not claiming CB either,

just wondering if it will create a bigger headache than usual, or if it simplifies things (haha)

thanks

clearingout

it's a good question. I haven't seen anything written on this yet. They probably haven't thought it through that far but you're right, they are going to have to come up with some other 'indicator' of who is PWC/NRP for child maintenance purposes. It also begs the question as to whether separated parents, where the PWC can't claim, could have the NRP claim instead (and what a can of worms that would open with the CSA!).

I suspect that statistically, it's a very small minority of PWC this is going to affect so they consider it's not really a problem. It'll be the 20-something, childless policy writing academics in Whitehall who presume that anyone earning over £60k is intelligent and decent and will be able to sort it out between themselves. Ho hum.

shell_542

It's not coming into play until next year is it? There's been no information about how the CSA are going to tackle it. It would be an opportune time for them to reassess their policy and find something that works better.

fannyanna

The worrying thing is that the CSA themselves probably haven't even thought of this question.

his_wife

i asked about this few weeks back and basically was told they would worry about that when it arrived,,,,,,,ho hum ,,,,,

IsItJustMe_2

Well I am sure we will be one to test the system.

Not sure it is about the intelligence of either party, more about spiteful PWC who thinks using the CSA and depriving her child of their father is parenting 101.

Would be quite happy to come to an amicable agreement with her, in fact OH has tried, but when you put yourself first above the needs of your child, there is just no hope.

I guess we will have to wait and see.

his_wife

i tried to come to an amicable agreement with my x 10 yrs ago,,,, his now wife took over the call and informed me that i would either accept £10 a week for my four children, as hers were not going to go without for anyone elses kids!!!!! or, she would make my ex husband pack his job in and then i would get nothing!!!!!!

Even now, i would still be willing to come to a private arrangement but i know after the agreement is set, it would change.

IsItJustMe_2

yeah, i find it quite funny she uses CSA against OH as a way to get to him and when they say he has a nil assessment due to going self employed, has the audacity to say moan and complain that she is not recieving anything and he is a bad dad blah de blah.

Sorry love, you live by the sword, you die by it.....

had she been amicabale and had allowed access then I would ahve bent over backwards to make sure she got her money, even though it would have meant we would have struggled for a few months....

my opinion now is tough titty... you wanted it this way and that is the way it will be, I will account for every penny and make sure she gets no more than she is entitled too

I feel sorry for my OH and his child as they lose out the most, but unfortunately she thinks she can manipulate the situation for her benefit.... she is in for a very rude awakening!

PreludeForTimeFeelers

Child Benefit is only used as an indicator in cases where the child is 16 - 19 and in education, so up until the child is 16 it's irrelevant whether CHB is in payment or not.

IsItJustMe_2

but there are cases, that the when the child leaves pwc home before 16 and may 'god forbid' move in with NRP and family, in that case CB would be counterclaimed, but would not be in our case as both parents earn above the threshold.... or am i misreading a number of threads on here where cb is the issue in deciding on 'where the said child is resident'?

kevin137

PreludeForTimeFeelers wrote: »

Child Benefit is only used as an indicator in cases where the child is 16 - 19 and in education, so up until the child is 16 it's irrelevant whether CHB is in payment or not.

Not quite true, they will in fact only consider a child as a deduction when living with you if in receipt of CB, so when i moved in with my current g/f and her 2 children, they would not accept the children as living with us without CB... Well ermmm who do they live with then...???

It then got more complicated as i provided the equivalent that the children do receive in Norway, and was told it was only applicable to children living with you.. Ermmmm they do, i live in Norway and was commuting for work to the UK...

They make up the rules as they go along...!

to os however no longer an issue, i left my job through injury, and no longer have anything to do with the uk tax system, so the CSA get nothing... My son however, gets what he wants direct from me....!