Are things actually not as bad as are made out?

falko89

Sure the media like to jump on the doom and gloom band wagon but I get the impression this is not actually the case, and if you actually buy into it, it almost becomes like a self for filling prophecy, reading threads on here you've got a few people like myself struggling but I bought into the gloom, I believed getting a new job was gonna be a struggle by what I heard reported by the media and it is, there are regular posts on this board to the contrary, unemployed few days/weeks and getting work and certainly approx 45 out of my 50 ex colleagues have all now found work. So what do you think? Are things not actually as bad as made out?

gibson123

The fact is that almost 90% of people who are made redundant find a job within 6 months under normal circumstances, in a recession it takes a bit longer, but most people unless there are other factors at play get a job within a year of redundancy. It is very difficult for new entrants - school leavers, college leavers, graduates, and people trying to find jobs in areas where there is little alternative employment, such as Sheffield after the Steel industries closed, or former mining communities. Also many people have to accept a wage drop and it can take 3 or 4 years to get back to your former level of remuneration.

falko89

gibson123 wrote: »

The fact is that almost 90% of people who are made redundant find a job within 6 months under normal circumstances, in a recession it takes a bit longer, but most people unless there are other factors at play get a job within a year of redundancy. It is very difficult for new entrants - school leavers, college leavers, graduates, and people trying to find jobs in areas where there is little alternative employment, such as Sheffield after the Steel industries closed, or former mining communities. Also many people have to accept a wage drop and it can take 3 or 4 years to get back to your former level of remuneration.

Yeah, I didn't think it was as bad as was made out, maybe for school leavers as you say.

dickydonkin

falko89 wrote: »

Sure the media like to jump on the doom and gloom band wagon but I get the impression this is not actually the case, and if you actually buy into it, it almost becomes like a self for filling prophecy, reading threads on here you've got a few people like myself struggling but I bought into the gloom, I believed getting a new job was gonna be a struggle by what I heard reported by the media and it is, there are regular posts on this board to the contrary, unemployed few days/weeks and getting work and certainly approx 45 out of my 50 ex colleagues have all now found work. So what do you think? Are things not actually as bad as made out?

Unemployment figures don't lie.

Well they do - the 'official' figures are way below the true unemployment stats. Currently there are over 5 million unemployed in the UK - successive governments have a habit of changing the criteria for determining unemployed statisitics for obvious reasons.

A lot depends on where you live, but here in the North East, it is desperate. Last week - Kerry Foods in Durham - 350 people on notice of redundancy - just one of many recent closures.

God help us if Nissan ever closes.

It is bad - make no mistake about that - and will get worse as long as we have these clowns running the country.

CCFC_80

I think that anyone unsure of the above question should just get on line and check The Reed website for job vacancies. This I think is the only job website that tells you how many people have applied for job vacancies. In my area (The Midlands) even NMW jobs are attracting 100's of applicants .

falko89

CCFC_80 wrote: »

I think that anyone unsure of the above question should just get on line and check The Reed website for job vacancies. This I think is the only job website that tells you how many people have applied for job vacancies. In my area (The Midlands) even NMW jobs are attracting 100's of applicants .

Thanks for the tip, I must check that out.


EDIT*** I never use Reed and now I remember why. A search of my town with 10 mile radius show 68 jobs, 60 of them are national for things like the army, HSBC, etc but the 8 that are local 5 of them have 0 applications and the other 3 have 1 each, but that's the problem around here, they are fancy jobs, no basic jobs, You see the same jobs constantly re advertised every other month, people around here aren't qualified enough to do them.

Notmyrealname

I don't think they are. I've been toying with going back to PAYE from self employment and the first job I applied for was at a car main dealers for which I've got an interview for next week. Never done this specific job and its been the thick end of two decades since I've worked in a garage.

And this is in Hull which is supposed to be one of the worst places in the UK.

falko89

Notmyrealname wrote: »

I don't think they are. I've been toying with going back to PAYE from self employment and the first job I applied for was at a car main dealers for which I've got an interview for next week. Never done this specific job and its been the thick end of two decades since I've worked in a garage.

And this is in Hull which is supposed to be one of the worst places in the UK.

Well to be honest while around here there isn't a lot of choice, but 95% of what I've applied for I've got an interview for at least,

LadyMissA

CCFC_80 wrote: »

I think that anyone unsure of the above question should just get on line and check The Reed website for job vacancies. This I think is the only job website that tells you how many people have applied for job vacancies. In my area (The Midlands) even NMW jobs are attracting 100's of applicants .

It now stops at 100+ so you now do not know if the job has gone above 300 or more!

My old supervisor just advertised a junior role and had over 170 people apply via Reed and some where over qualified who he told me he just dismissed . He did however read all the CV's after knowing how bad it is from what I have told him - he did say before he would only read the first 20 CV's

falko89

I'm starting to see a real difference here, I guess it depends where you live.

LadyMissA

falko89 wrote: »

I'm starting to see a real difference here, I guess it depends where you live.

no it's nothing to do where you live at all as people in big cities are having just as hard a time of it getting a job etc