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Broken fencing in rented property - advice required

Hi guys,

We're currently renting a terraced property, and in January the fencing along one side of the garden and the back has come down completely.

At the time, I reported it to the LA, and sent them pictures by email, and after a couple of days had a response to say it was the LL's joint responsibility with the neighbours to fix the fencing. Fine, so we knocked onto the neighbours, let them know and gave them the LA's telephone number to sort it out with the LL.

Fast forward to the end of Jan, the neighbours knock on our door just to let us know that they'd rang the LA but hadn't heard anything back.

It got to the beginning of March with no progress so we rang the LA, and we've rang them each week since chasing as we're getting no response. Each time we get told they'll ring the LL and let us know, but we never hear anything.

So, it's been almost 3 months since we reported it, and despite being chased 3/4 times, nothing has been done.

Would we be within our rights to sort the fencing out ourselves with our neighbours and then deduct it from our rent? We'd obviously inform the LA first.
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  • sharpee
    sharpee Posts: 671 Forumite
    Have you reported the problem to the LA/LL in writing?
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  • princeofpounds
    princeofpounds Posts: 10,396 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    google Lee Parker vs Izzet 1971 and read this:

    http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/repairs_and_bad_conditions

    (if you are in england)
  • timberflake
    timberflake Posts: 1,623 Forumite
    sharpee wrote: »
    Have you reported the problem to the LA/LL in writing?

    Yes, when we first reported it we emailed it through with pictures.
  • rentergirl
    rentergirl Posts: 371 Forumite
    Get three reasonable professional quotes, write politely to the landlord and offer to engage them as long the contractors can bill the landlord direct.
  • theGrinch
    theGrinch Posts: 3,133 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    you should contact them with a deadline, some quotes and cite concern over security for yourself and the property.

    however, my understanding, is in law there is no requirement to have a fence to mark a boundary.
    "enough is a feast"...old Buddist proverb
  • timberflake
    timberflake Posts: 1,623 Forumite
    Hi guys,

    So it turns out that the LA can't even get hold of the LL to discuss fixing the fence.

    We've discussed it with the neighbours and think the best way to do it is both get a couple of quotes and take it from there.

    However, seeing as she refuses to return calls etc, do we have the right to pay for the work ourselves split 50/50 with the neighbours, and deduct it from the rent? We'd obviously tell the LA/LL that this was our intention.

    The above is a last resort if we get the quotes and she still fails to act.
  • cattie
    cattie Posts: 8,841 Forumite
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    Be very careful before you do anything, as there is no legal requirement for a property owner to maintain or replace any fence in the garden if they do not wish to do so.

    Unless it states in your contract that the landlord will be responsible for fences then be prepared to pay for the replacement out of your own pocket should she choose not to contribute towards the cost.
    The bigger the bargain, the better I feel.

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  • timberflake
    timberflake Posts: 1,623 Forumite
    cattie wrote: »
    Be very careful before you do anything, as there is no legal requirement for a property owner to maintain or replace any fence in the garden if they do not wish to do so.

    Unless it states in your contract that the landlord will be responsible for fences then be prepared to pay for the replacement out of your own pocket should she choose not to contribute towards the cost.

    So the LL could simply tell the neighbours that she isn't paying anything towards the repair of the fence and leave them to pay for it 100% even though the deeds say responsibility is split 50/50?
  • Brb
    Brb Posts: 472 Forumite
    So the LL could simply tell the neighbours that she isn't paying anything towards the repair of the fence and leave them to pay for it 100% even though the deeds say responsibility is split 50/50?

    Yes.

    LLs are not required to fix fencing unless stated in your contract (unlikely).

    Your neighbour is also at liberty to ignore it too.

    I know, sucks eh.
    Inside this body lays one of a skinny woman
    but I can usually shut her up with chocolate!

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    it means that I agree with that post and have nothing further to add.
  • timberflake
    timberflake Posts: 1,623 Forumite
    Brb wrote: »
    Yes.

    LLs are not required to fix fencing unless stated in your contract (unlikely).

    Your neighbour is also at liberty to ignore it too.

    I know, sucks eh.

    That's rubbish! I feel sorry for the neighbours if that's the case as they could be left with the financial burden of replacing the whole fence. Im obviously not going to pay 50% upfront if theres no guarantee I'll get my money back.
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