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Fostering/adoption allowances?

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3871955

OP on that thread is asking for 215,000 to donate £1 so he can buy a house to house himself, partner and his partner's 2 children.

Now, given that Social Services and the courts were involved, would he be eligible for any allowances? I would prefer if people just stuck to that basic question here - and dealt with all other aspects on the linked thread.

Thanks for any input.
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  • gibson123
    gibson123 Posts: 1,733 Forumite
    Kinship caring is very complex, however there are a lot of sources of information. This link lets you put in personal details and works a bit like a process chart.

    http://www.frg.org.uk/need-help-or-advice?gclid=CInrtc2_ha8CFcYntAodzE743g
  • gibson123
    gibson123 Posts: 1,733 Forumite
    Oh and a lot depends on whether the children were at some point in the care of the local authority social work services or not.
  • saidan
    saidan Posts: 308 Forumite
    kinship carers do not normally receive any monies for fostering a relative

    that is not to say however that they cannot apply to the placing authority for help with costs on a discretionary basis - social services would do a means test assessment if necessary, and to keep a child from going 'into care' may approve that the family receive monetary help

    if kinship carers do get approved to receive monetary help - the 'going rate' for foster carers is approx £400 per month as a wage - then approx £300 per month per child to meet the childs expenses.

    sometimes kinship carers get some financial help - but not the 'going rate' for caring for their relatives..............sometimes they get the full 'going rate', mostly though they receive £0.
    Proud mum :T


  • Alikay
    Alikay Posts: 5,147 Forumite
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    saidan wrote: »

    if kinship carers do get approved to receive monetary help - the 'going rate' for foster carers is approx £400 per month as a wage - then approx £300 per month per child to meet the childs expenses.

    Not true in all areas. I'm a foster carer and get £120 weekly per child which includes all their clothes and expenses.

    Kinship carers may not get the fostering allowance, but unlike us, they are able to claim child benefit and tax credits for the children, plus any free school meals etc that they may be entitled to. Some children I cared for went to family carers and social services set them up with new beds and car seats etc.
  • tori.k
    tori.k Posts: 3,592 Forumite
    Alikay wrote: »
    Not true in all areas. I'm a foster carer and get £120 weekly per child which includes all their clothes and expenses.

    Kinship carers may not get the fostering allowance, but unlike us, they are able to claim child benefit and tax credits for the children, plus any free school meals etc that they may be entitled to. Some children I cared for went to family carers and social services set them up with new beds and car seats etc.

    I suppose it depends on where you live to what you get, i was given a resident order for a lad when my friend died and only got his normal child benefit for him, i remember at the time asking with help to get a bed for him, and was told by our SS "we can't help with things like that" where as other's in the same situation in different area's were given set up grants to help
  • gizmo111
    gizmo111 Posts: 2,663 Forumite
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    Richh wrote: »
    Hi, I'm the op.

    I can say with a high level of confidence that we get nothing more than any other person can get and it is all down to the fact my partner is their Aunt. This was told to us by HMRC and social services.

    What order have you got on the childen?
    Finances wuld have been taken into account when you were assessed to care for these children - what do you get?
    Mama read so much about the dangers of drinking alcohol and eating chocolate that she immediately gave up reading.
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    I read the thread and am completely gobsmacked....
    1- the kids are 2 and 3 and have been through tough time. What they need above anything else is love and reassurance and most likely will much much prefer to share a bedroom together than be in large individual bedroom with their parents taking all their time to make up the house.
    2- If the OP was genuine, somehow trully believing he was doing it for the children, he wouldn't have been posting just two weeks ago about becoming a property developper, and more importantly, he would have asked help to raise a deposit, not to have the WHOLE house paid for.
    3- if his motive was trully the kids's welfare, he would be now saving every penny so he could afford a large enough house at a time that they might indeed prefer to have their own room...in 10 years time...
    4- what those kids need is to learn good values and morals. That is that to get what you want you have to work hard and save not use emotional mean to get things for free.

    I found the original thread of a very bad taste...
  • Alikay wrote: »
    Not true in all areas. I'm a foster carer and get £120 weekly per child which includes all their clothes and expenses.

    Kinship carers may not get the fostering allowance, but unlike us, they are able to claim child benefit and tax credits for the children, plus any free school meals etc that they may be entitled to. Some children I cared for went to family carers and social services set them up with new beds and car seats etc.

    This is not correct...I am a kinship carer. To be able to claim child benefit and tax credits, school dinners you need to have PR. Most kinship carers do not have PR unless the get either a residency order or special Guardianship.

    How much you receive depends on your local authority. I had three children from the local authority and i was not given any bedding/ set up costs/clothing etc. i did / do not receive any allowences

    I then had another child from another local authority and i was given everything i needed and i am paid a weekly alowance.
  • Gottodothis
    Gottodothis Posts: 82 Forumite
    edited 27 March 2012 at 10:04AM
    Also having just read the tread I am suprised that the op was given the children with a house that size after a full assessment.

    I had a three bed but had to move because the house wasn't big enough. Same sex sibblings can share. Once a baby reaches two it has to have its own room. All this would be taken into account when you have the assessment.

    It all seems a bit odd...What Local authority did this assessment?

    Should the op contact the family rights group they will help and advise them to be able to get the help they need.
  • Mmmm, very strange. The OP's threads seem to have disappeared now. No doubt he will try to do it somewhere else. I thought it was just plain wrong what he was trying to do and exploiting the children by putting them all over the internet, just disgusting. I hope that he doesn't get away with it.
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