Tory snouts in the trough again

chewmylegoff

pqrdef wrote: »

None of that will raise enough money to get anybody elected and maintain them in office. Why would anybody join a party? Agreeing with it isn't enough. Wanting it to win isn't enough. People join parties so they can go to local party meetings. In other words, almost nobody wants to join.

why wouldn't it raise enough to get people elected? they get free airtime to make political broadcasts on TV, they constantly get invited to participate in television, radio and newspaper interviews / debates in which they get to put their case to the nation and to attract voters to their cause, the news and newspapers cover high profile parliamentary sessions like PMQs, the budget, etc.

prospective candidates would simply have to put more personal effort into campaigning. i can't remember ever having seen a political candidate or any of their supporters for any sort of election on the campaign trail - certainly none of them have ever knocked on my front door when i've been in. they'd have to get out more instead of paying for massive advertising campaigns.

and if there isn't enough public interest in a party to get it enough attention to get candidates elected without it having a vast amount of cash for a propoganda campaign, then that tells you how much the people voting actually care about that party.

and they don't need to be maintained once they are in office because they get an office and staff paid for by the taxpayer.

pqrdef

chewmylegoff wrote: »

they constantly get invited to participate in television, radio and newspaper interviews / debates in which they get to put their case to the nation and to attract voters to their cause

They'd all be woffling at cross purposes without a party HQ telling them what to say.

The stuff being introduced by Lansley, Gove, IDS etc didn't just spring from nowhere, fully formed. Teams of people have been working on it for years. IDS runs his own think tank. Policy to run a country isn't made up by a few MPs in a bar.

Of course the only people who give a toss about all that stuff are the people who want a political career. Research at party HQ, stand in no-hope seat, stand in better seat, win seat, etc. So if you think the people who're interested in party politics are the people who should pay for it all, we're back to where we came in, self-funded politicians. And of course the parties already do use a lot of interns.

StevieJ

GlynD wrote: »

So the Tory's have their noses in the snout eh?

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12127327

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14364037

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/8316646/Former-Labour-MP-Eric-Illsley-jailed-over-expenses-scandal.html

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/05/20/uk-britain-expenses-morley-idUKTRE74J2WY20110520

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1259485/Top-Labour-MPs-trapped-TV-sting.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1540804/Cash-for-honours-paper-trail-leads-to-Blair.html

http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=2760

Is some form of justification?

StevieJ

pqrdef wrote: »

They'd all be woffling at cross purposes without a party HQ telling them what to say.

The stuff being introduced by Lansley, Gove, IDS etc didn't just spring from nowhere, fully formed. Teams of people have been working on it for years. IDS runs his own think tank. Policy to run a country isn't made up by a few MPs in a bar.
.

Chewy. I am warming to your idea

alltrustgone

The stuff being introduced by Lansley, Gove, IDS etc didn't just spring from nowhere, fully formed. Teams of people have been working on it for years. IDS runs his own think tank. Policy to run a country isn't made up by a few MPs in a bar. Policy to run a country isn't made up by a few MPs in a bar.

Given how inept they seem you could be forgiven for thinking this is how the make their plans - notes on the back of a fag packet......

GlynD

StevieJ wrote: »

Is some form of justification?

Is that what the post indicated to you? Strange that it would.

pqrdef

Turns out the donors only get invited to private dinners with the Camerons, not official dinners. Can't say I envy the Camerons, having to do that sort of stuff. I hope they don't serve M&S shepherds pies, like Maggie used to.

pqrdef

Incidentally, Old Labour had friends in business as well as in the unions. Remember Lord Gannex?