Fedex, Shiping to Japan, Heavy goods, Do I have to find a depot ??

paddyrg

Jane_gs wrote: »

Is there any way to Find out the Charge for this Customers? and Clearnance rates, BEFORE the parcel is parcelled/ or before it is given to Fedex ?

Only Japanese cutoms can assay the goods for Japanese tax AFAIK. Certainly with any accuracy.

So make the buyer the shipper, and just be the place the stuff is collected from, do not get involved!

paddyrg

Good news, just been past Rymans who act as a DHL Service Point (WHSmith may do too) - they do a prepay service £169.99 or £199.99 (your stuff has to fit in their boxes) then the recipient pays duty etc before delivery. If you pay cash and most importantly advise the buyer they will have to pay DHL the import duty, VAT and or fees levied by Japanese govt, then it shouldn't come back on you!

visidigi

paddyrg wrote: »

So make the buyer the shipper, and just be the place the stuff is collected from, do not get involved!

This is against Department of Transport Regulations - the address on the label should match the address of collection.

custardy

Jane_gs wrote: »

I wil be posting Heavy goods to Japan, using Fedex..

EDIT: A BUYER in Japan is buying them from me.

They are vynll records..... heavy too (15 kg)

My question is:
Do i have to go to a local Fedex Depot (ready packed) and get them to ship them to the adderss? and I pay them?

or do Fedex collect these?

(I am also asking about DHL)

Im curious
you have decided on Fedex or DHL,but have no idea how it works?

visidigi

paddyrg wrote: »

Good news, just been past Rymans who act as a DHL Service Point (WHSmith may do too) - they do a prepay service £169.99 or £199.99 (your stuff has to fit in their boxes) then the recipient pays duty etc before delivery. If you pay cash and most importantly advise the buyer they will have to pay DHL the import duty, VAT and or fees levied by Japanese govt, then it shouldn't come back on you!

They still require accurate shipper information for Department of Transport regulation - DHL could still come back to you as shippers are always responsible for the overall shipping contract - remember, the shipper is the one who engages the courier.

If delivery is incomplete DHL will return the package to the shipper - this is the only way DHL can reclaim the duties paid for the consignment when the recipient refuses.

visidigi

custardy wrote: »

Im curious
you have decided on Fedex or DHL,but have no idea how it works?

To be fair, the big three (FedEx, DHL and UPS) carry for alot of the other companies who ship internationally - Parcelforce for example has a significant portion of their shipments to destinations outside the EU carried by FedEx.

Of course you could use Royal Mail, but the cost and lack of full tracking compared to a courier would make this route questionable.

sekrapa

When you fill in the Waybill, the top left are your contact details, under that is the recipients details and under that are the box size, weight, description and value. On the other side of the document you fill in who pays import duties, just make sure you tick the box that states "recipient" (think this is 7b). That way, you are only responsible for the payment of shipping, the buyer pays for all duties and taxes the other end.

Just make sure that they know this beforehand.

visidigi

sekrapa wrote: »

When you fill in the Waybill, the top left are your contact details, under that is the recipients details and under that are the box size, weight, description and value. On the other side of the document you fill in who pays import duties, just make sure you tick the box that states "recipient" (think this is 7b). That way, you are only responsible for the payment of shipping, the buyer pays for all duties and taxes the other end.

Just make sure that they know this beforehand.

This is the correct way to fill out the shipping paperwork, but read the terms and conditions on the back, as the contract creator you are ultimately responsible for the duties and taxes if the recipient refuses.

Same with all couriers.

paddyrg

Visidigi - by 'make the buyer the shipper' I meant to let them make all their own arrangements to collect, not to falsify paperwork. If they initiate the contract, then it removes ambiguity surely? Goods are theirs to collect via whichever courier they choose, etc.
On the Rymans/DHL box thing, on their flyer they say in the terms that the recipient is responsible for taxes and duties - are you saying that's actually an inaccurate picture?

visidigi

paddyrg wrote: »

Visidigi - by 'make the buyer the shipper' I meant to let them make all their own arrangements to collect, not to falsify paperwork. If they initiate the contract, then it removes ambiguity surely? Goods are theirs to collect via whichever courier they choose, etc.
On the Rymans/DHL box thing, on their flyer they say in the terms that the recipient is responsible for taxes and duties - are you saying that's actually an inaccurate picture?

The international labels have a signature on them - this signature is acceptance of the shipping terms - these state the shipper of the goods is responsible, it doesn't matter if the far end instigate the original shipment request, the signature on the consignment specifies responsibility (e.g. if the recipient arrange collection of an illegal substance, such as Khat they are not who is pursued for the offense, the shipper is as they knowingly handed over the goods)

The leaflet says they will be liable, but what I am saying is if DHL cannot extract payment from the recipient they WILL go after the shipper for it if it gets to that point.