Cycling: red lights

mttylad

AFAIK there is nothing to say that a cyclist cannot dismount and become a pedestrian, walk around the outside of the light controlled zone then continue on cycle......

custardy

mttylad wrote: »

AFAIK there is nothing to say that a cyclist cannot dismount and become a pedestrian, walk around the outside of the light controlled zone then continue on cycle......

they can
however it doesnt mean you can cycle through or do that scoot on one leg some cyclists seem to think doesnt count
ironically,they are in less control than if they just cycled though

thelawnet

custardy wrote: »

they can
however it doesnt mean you can cycle through or do that scoot on one leg some cyclists seem to think doesnt count
ironically,they are in less control than if they just cycled though

Indeed, it's a bit silly, hence I'm not going to make a big charade about it, just go straight through....

Dave_C_2

Just to keep the record straight from a cyclist's POV

• A lot of adult cyclists alike myself also drive, so we have passed a test.
• Most of us are insured, either by a membership of a cycling organisation or through the home insurance policy.
• Number plates/licensing on bicycles doesn't work
• It's not just a few Motorists who jump red lights
• The death toll on UK roads in 2010 was 1,857 of which 405 were pedestrians and 111 were cyclists. The total number killed by cyclists in 2010 was zero.
• The last thing that a cyclist wants to do is have a collision of any kind. It hurts:(

And finally a reminder from the highway code:





Dave

mazza111

mikey72 wrote: »

Of course we all break the law.
We just break the ones we don't think matter.

You honestly have never driven at 75mph on a motorway, or 65mph on a country road?

Not deliberately

Never put cardboard in the wheelie bin?

Not deliberately

Never dropped a swwet wrapper?

Not deliberately



Since when was putting cardboard in the wheelie bin illegal? :eek:


Of course almost everyone has broken the law. But deliberately cycling through a red light is rather naughty. As custardly says, there's nothing to stop him getting off his bike and pushing it through.

Yes of course I've dropped sweet wrappers, usually when pulling other junk out my pocket. Would i deliberately throw a sweet wrapper away? No, sorry I wouldn't.


But I could still happily murder next door's kids..... now where's the gun!!! Spent almost a year getting the garden in shape. They moved in a month ago, and already getting all their bl00dy rubbish, half eaten sweets. Toys all over garden. AAARGH Did i mention I don't like kids?

thelawnet

mazza111 wrote: »

Of course almost everyone has broken the law. But deliberately cycling through a red light is rather naughty.

Is it worse than dropping a cigarette butt on the pavement? Or downloading music off the internet?

mazza111

Missing the point. Is murdering next door's kids any worse? Again probably an extreme one...but so tempting

You can't pick and choose which laws you think are more/less severe. The law is the law.

BTW I'm not anti cyclist or anything. Just hate when some cyclists (and motorists) think they are above the law.


What did you do when the motorist gave you abuse for doing this? No doubt carried on with whatever you were doing. So was there really any need for a debate, if you had to ask the question, you knew you were in the wrong.

I'm not going to say it's any worse than dropping cigs or d/l music illegally, it's certainly not any better.

Mrs_Arcanum

In all this no one has considered the pedestrian who may be crossing the road because all the traffic is stopped by lights. In some ways cyclists are worse in this respect because you cannot tell which way they will swerve to avoid pedestrians.

custardy

Mrs_Arcanum wrote: »

In all this no one has considered the pedestrian who may be crossing the road because all the traffic is stopped by lights. In some ways cyclists are worse in this respect because you cannot tell which way they will swerve to avoid pedestrians.

also peds often are never sure if a cyclist is actually going to stop.
I have strong brakes,so i don't need to slow down much befoe stopping at lights
the amount of times I see peds who are hesitant,as the assume I won't stop

NBLondon

thelawnet wrote: »

I won't accept any lectures about being law abiding from motorists who ignore laws they don't like, but then say 'because we studiously follow this particular law, you should too'.

You invited that by making an arrogant first post about how you chose to break a law when it suited you and seemed to be seeking approval. You then assume that motorists are a homogenous entity based on some you see and get niggled when the same assumption is made about cyclists.