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Renewables: "talking 'bout my generation"
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countryman wrote: »A better day producing 2.6 O's
I'm going to submit my first generation meter reading for FIT payment to OVO Energy in a mo'.
1090Kwh generated this quarter. (Commencing 10th July)
Import for the month was 125 day Kwh and 48 night Kwh (E7)
Gas consumption for the month 2.7 units (whatever that equates to in Kwh, I really don't know).
Family of 4
3.64 O's today simples....(Leggoman Laughing)..
2.5 kWp PV system, SSW facing, 45 Deg Roof. ABB Inverter, Monitor: 'Wattson'.
Reg. for FIT Nov 2011. "It's not what you generate; it's how you use it that matters". One very clean Vauxhall Diesel Sri, £30.00 Road Tax:
Definition of 'O's = kWh/kWp (kWh = your daily & accurate Generation figure) (kWp = the rated output of your PV Panels).0 -
2.5 O's today.......I think. Inputting from 200mls away:D
Istanbul - Constantinople:cool:16 Sanyo Hit 250s.4kWp SMA 3.8kWp inverter. SW roof. 28° pitch. Minimal shade. Nov 2011 install. Hybrid car. Ripple Kirk Hill. N.E Lincs Coast.0 -
Missed the revised PVGIS Climate target by one measly kWh so not too bad.
September 2014 - 117 kWh
September 2013 - 113 kWh
September 2012 - 141 kWh
September 2011 - 135 kWh
PV Output
My system is coming up to its four year anniversary in a couple of weeks and, barring a volcanic ash cloud, the past twelve months generation will be the best so far.0 -
System: M1 ESE 3.58kWp
Total generation: 292kWh (2013 229kWh)
Os (generation per kWp): 81.56kWh
System: M2 WNW 2.0kWp
Total generation: 135.5kWh (2013 118kWh)
Os (generation per kWp): 67.75kWh
Notes:
Overall 427.5kWh & 113% of target (2013 347kWh & 92%).
Solid start to the month, pulled ahead weeks 1 & 2 then held on till the end.
Import 115kWh.
Annual total prediction 108%. With 98.31% 'in the bag' already.
MartMart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.
For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.0 -
Could someone please point me toward a detailed explanation and definition of O's . Whilst I am familiar with the calculation, a little more understanding of them and their relevance would be useful.
I'm assuming this has been well covered before somewhere but I have not seen it myself, hopefully to save someone a lot of typing in explaining it again.
Thanks4kw PV fitted 4th July 2014 (Green Energy NW £5600). WSW facing, 30 deg Pitch, Unshaded, Samil Solar River inverter, 16 Solar World Mono panels, Iboost on Immersion Heater. located in mid Lincolnshire.0 -
countryman wrote: »Could someone please point me toward a detailed explanation and definition of O's . Whilst I am familiar with the calculation, a little more understanding of them and their relevance would be useful.
I'm assuming this has been well covered before somewhere but I have not seen it myself, hopefully to save someone a lot of typing in explaining it again.
Thanks2 kWp SEbE , 2kWp SSW & 2.5kWp NWbW.....in sunny North Derbyshire17.7kWh Givenergy battery added(for the power hungry kids)0 -
countryman wrote: »Could someone please point me toward a detailed explanation and definition of O's . Whilst I am familiar with the calculation, a little more understanding of them and their relevance would be useful.
I'm assuming this has been well covered before somewhere but I have not seen it myself, hopefully to save someone a lot of typing in explaining it again.
Thanks
If you have a look at some charts on pvoutput.org, you'll see they show Oscars 'O's as Efficiency.
It is calculated by dividing the total daily generation by the rated size of your solar installation.
I have 16 x 250w panels, giving me a 4kWp system.
So if I generate 12 kWh today (pretty please!), and divide that by my system, 4kWp, I end with 3 Oscars, or O's.
Dunno why Oscar declared this unit of measurement his (I prefer my ho's, always happy to have more ho's, but just one Oscar is more than enough! No sexist intentions, just my warped sense of humour!), but it's a relatively simple way of comparing systems of different sizes, equipment and location.
Some folk are happy with it as a rough guide, others will argue that it makes no sense and doesn't take into account all variables.
Nobody forces anybody to do anything here, so o, or ho, or not. Your call!
Not scientific but I've left that for the much cleverer people here!
They'll be along shortly to give a proper grown up answer!4kWp, SSE, SolarEdge P300 optimisers & SE3500 Inverter, in occasionally sunny Corby, Northants.
Now with added Sunsynk 5kw hybrid ecco inverter & 15kWh Fogstar batteries. Oh Octopus Energy too.0 -
The discussion of 'O' reminded me of a suggestion I made this time last year, where I offered the thought that an average daily O for the year was a useful measure. So I've updated last year's message to cover this year as well...
(My 'solar' year runs from the end of July) so:
1/8/11 - 31/7/12
3746kW/h =127% of PVGIS average daily 'O' value = 3.119
1/8/12 - 31/7/13
3453kW/h =117% of PVGIS average daily 'O' value = 2.875
1/8/13 - 31/7/14
3851kW/h = 131% of PVGIS average daily 'O' value =3.206
My figures for 2012-13 included a period when a bad connection on the roof prevented generation for some weeks (in winter). Allowing for this, I'm getting an average daily yield of about 3.1 'Os', or about 10kW/h per average day. I call that an OG (even if no-one else does).
The formula is [total annual generation] divided by [kWp] divided by [365]
(Incidentally, the PVGIS figures used above are the 2011 ones. I can't seem to find out which are the latest revisions, and which PVGIS figures I should be using. Perhaps someone can help me!)
Cheers!O G :cool: Somewhere on the South Downs
3.29kWp S by E
Greetings to Druids everywhere0 -
countryman wrote: »Gas consumption for the month 2.7 units (whatever that equates to in Kwh, I really don't know).
A gas unit is roughly 31.3 electric units (kW/h), so 2.7 units is about 84kW/h.
My rule of thumb (last year) was that a unit of gas cost a pound. (If I've got that wrong I'm sure someone will put me right!)O G :cool: Somewhere on the South Downs
3.29kWp S by E
Greetings to Druids everywhere0 -
old_grouser wrote: »The discussion of 'O' reminded me of a suggestion I made this time last year, where I offered the thought that an average daily O for the year was a useful measure. So I've updated last year's message to cover this year as well...
Bleeding Hell.... think I will stick with me daily O....
Eeer, today's result 2.2 O's......2.5 kWp PV system, SSW facing, 45 Deg Roof. ABB Inverter, Monitor: 'Wattson'.
Reg. for FIT Nov 2011. "It's not what you generate; it's how you use it that matters". One very clean Vauxhall Diesel Sri, £30.00 Road Tax:
Definition of 'O's = kWh/kWp (kWh = your daily & accurate Generation figure) (kWp = the rated output of your PV Panels).0
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