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Renewables: "talking 'bout my generation"
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Yes, I understand all that, it wasn't the point I was making in response to tunnel's post.RPI is indeed based on a year's results. However, a large increase at any point during the year would result in an increase in RPI. Energy price increases of 8 to 10% in the last few weeks wouldn't put RPI up by 10% but might well push it up by almost 1% which along with other less spectacular rises would still mean a nett increase.2kWp Solar PV - 10*200W Kioto, SMA Sunny Boy 2000HF, SSE facing, some shading in winter, 37° pitch, installed Jun-2011, inverter replaced Sep-2017 AND Feb-2022.0 -
It makes no difference. RPI is an annual rate. A value is taken in the same month every year. It is completely irrelevant what happens to the rate in the particular month that the annual "snapshot" is taken. This misunderstanding occurs regularly in the media where sometimes accusations are made that the rate is manipulated in the month when, for example, pension rises are calculated. This is a mathematical impossibility. The only way to manipulate it would be to keep changing the month that is used to determine the following year's rise.
Its completely relevant to anyone with PV, whatever happens in December shapes the payment increase for the FIT in April for the next 12 months.2 kWp SEbE , 2kWp SSW & 2.5kWp NWbW.....in sunny North Derbyshire17.7kWh Givenergy battery added(for the power hungry kids)0 -
You have still completely missed the point I was making. Never mind.Its completely relevant to anyone with PV, whatever happens in December shapes the payment increase for the FIT in April for the next 12 months.
2kWp Solar PV - 10*200W Kioto, SMA Sunny Boy 2000HF, SSE facing, some shading in winter, 37° pitch, installed Jun-2011, inverter replaced Sep-2017 AND Feb-2022.0 -
Afraid it's very hard to see what point you were making when you said "You have still completely missed the point I was making. Never mind.
Any large rise at any point in the year being considered will result in a rise in the RPI.KevinG wrote:It is completely irrelevant what happens to the rate in the particular month that the annual "snapshot" is taken."
The original point to which that was a response read (in full)
i.e. without the recent electricity price rises, the rate of RPI increase (and hence the expected FIT rate increase) was dropping but as they'll just be in time for inclusion in the next set of calculations we can expect a higher FIT rate than if those increases didn't take effect until January.Interestingly, the RPI index dropped in October to 2.6% in line with CPI which was down due to cheaper road fuel and tuition fees(apparently) but may look set to increase again with the latest round of energy hikes due to take effect in the next few months.
Just in time for December when the rate is taken for the annual rise in FIT
And incidentally, the reference to tuition fees in Tunnel's source didn't mean they were dropping, it meant they last increased more than a year previously so no longer affected the annual rate,NE Derbyshire.4kWp S Facing 17.5deg slope (dormer roof).24kWh of Pylontech batteries with Lux controller BEV : Hyundai Ioniq50 -
Whoops - got my editing in a muddle - ignore!2kWp Solar PV - 10*200W Kioto, SMA Sunny Boy 2000HF, SSE facing, some shading in winter, 37° pitch, installed Jun-2011, inverter replaced Sep-2017 AND Feb-2022.0
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That is exactly the point I was making! I don't want to labour the point any more on this thread as it isn't really appropriate. Hopefully somebody out there understands me!Any large rise at any point in the year being considered will result in a rise in the RPI.
As I said, irrelevant in the long term. It will just mean the following year's increase is lower.The original point to which that was a response read (in full)
i.e. without the recent electricity price rises, the rate of RPI increase (and hence the expected FIT rate increase) was dropping but as they'll just be in time for inclusion in the next set of calculations we can expect a higher FIT rate than if those increases didn't take effect until January.2kWp Solar PV - 10*200W Kioto, SMA Sunny Boy 2000HF, SSE facing, some shading in winter, 37° pitch, installed Jun-2011, inverter replaced Sep-2017 AND Feb-2022.0 -
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And this is all due to the pv ????..... :doh:.... :rotfl:
Are you taking other savings such as loft & cavity wall insulation into account at the same time (?), in which case all of the savings are not strictly due to the pv system .... and/or are savings resulting from changing energy supplier/product being considered (?), in which case these also should not logically be included as any savings would be possible without the pv investment....
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As I stated in my last post.....read it????:rotfl: I have had my loft re-insulated (250mm) in Jan 2012 and changed several of my old UPVC windows for newer and far more efficient ones. In April 2012 I also changed my old hot water cylinder for a larger, better insulated one. Using energysavingexp's switch set-up, I can nearly turn off my gas boiler from April to September.
Other savings have come from getting rid of my old "F" rated freezer in the garage that had next to nothing in. I also run a de-humidifier but, rather than leave it on the whole day I now use it when my solar output is at it's highest or during daylight hours. Because I am in on any days I choose, I react to the weather and run it, (and anything else) at max when SP output is good. All of my old lights were changed for LED ones too. Before SPV I left almost everything turned on and did not know what the running costs were for each individual appliance...I do now.
Regarding energy suppliers, I have been with Eon for many years (until today when I switch to first:utility) and, since 2011 (when I was paying £120.00 a month) I have had 3 different plans which have become progressively more expensive!
You may say some of the things I have done should not be included but, if I had not installed SPV and compared notes and advice on this site, I may have merrily carried on paying my £120.00 a month (or more):think:
Only 0.65 O's yesterday:( (95kWh for Nov
16 Sanyo Hit 250s.4kWp SMA 3.8kWp inverter. SW roof. 28° pitch. Minimal shade. Nov 2011 install. Hybrid car. Ripple Kirk Hill. N.E Lincs Coast.0 -
And to prove the point, I noticed that at 5pm on Friday the BBC website was showing sunshine all day in Manfield for today. Not sure what your postcode is Eric, but it was the same in S44. So sceptical of this was I, that I even did a screenprintHardly original ! Suspect you'll find the BBC have been doing that for years
It's not happening, is it....0 -
Kernel_Sanders wrote: »And to prove the point, I noticed that at 5pm on Friday the BBC website was showing sunshine all day in Manfield for today. Not sure what your postcode is Eric, but it was the same in S44. So sceptical of this was I that I even did a screenprint[IMG]http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/<a href=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/138/krfd.png/ target=_blank rel=nofollow>[/img]
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It's not happening, is it....
Manfield, a place for men to gather and look for the sun, sounds more like Stonehenge:rotfl:
Sorry...couldn't resist2 kWp SEbE , 2kWp SSW & 2.5kWp NWbW.....in sunny North Derbyshire17.7kWh Givenergy battery added(for the power hungry kids)0 -
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