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Renewables: "talking 'bout my generation"

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  • shafeeq
    shafeeq Posts: 973 Forumite
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    2.14666 O's today. Pleasantly suprised with the generation
  • Oscargrouch
    Oscargrouch Posts: 4,393 Forumite
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    shafeeq wrote: »
    2.14666 O's today. Pleasantly suprised with the generation

    And so you should be from your recent performance....
    Keep cramming lots of numbers in, called the feel good factor..smiley-laughing021.gif

    3.120000000 O's for me..smiley-happy057.gif
    2.5 kWp PV system, SSW facing, 45 Deg Roof. ABB Inverter, Monitor: 'Wattson'.
    Reg. for FIT Nov 2011. "It's not what you generate; it's how you use it that matters". One very clean Vauxhall Diesel Sri, £30.00 Road Tax: B)

    Definition of 'O's = kWh/kWp (kWh = your daily & accurate Generation figure) (kWp = the rated output of your PV Panels).
  • jackieblack
    jackieblack Posts: 10,556 Forumite
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    Pitiful generation over the last few days has cemented the fact that, with 6 days of the month left, March generation is currently only 60% of target :(
    Previous worst (% of target) ever month was Feb 2011, only 72% of target generated :(
    However, this was folowed by a spectacular March, April, May & June 2011, generating 130, 148, 137 & 126% of target respectively :)
    Fingers crossed:D

    BTW, while I remember, don't forget to take your 'rate change' readings on March 31st everyone!
    With pre-31st March generation being so awful, any auto/pro-rata'd calculation later will almost certainly result in a less-than-favourable result.
    2.22kWp Solar PV system installed Oct 2010, Fronius IG20 Inverter, south facing (-5 deg), 30 degree pitch, no shading
    Everything will be alright in the end so, if it’s not yet alright, it means it’s not yet the end
    MFW #4 OPs: 2018 £866.89, 2019 £1322.33, 2020 £1337.07
    2021 £1250.00, 2022 £1500.00, 2023 £1500, 2024 £1350
    2025 target = £1200, YTD £9190
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  • EricMears
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    Pitiful generation over the last few days has cemented the fact that, with 6 days of the month left, March generation is currently only 60% of target :(
    Previous worst (% of target) ever month was Feb 2011, only 72% of target generated :(
    However, this was folowed by a spectacular March, April, May & June 2011, generating 130, 148, 137 & 126% of target respectively :)
    Fingers crossed:D

    BTW, while I remember, don't forget to take your 'rate change' readings on March 31st everyone!
    With pre-31st March generation being so awful, any auto/pro-rata'd calculation later will almost certainly result in a less-than-favourable result.

    In our case, we've had 60% of the 'old' pvgis forecast but only 55% of the 'new improved estimates'. But pro-rata the 55% goes up to 67% for a full month and (hopefully !!!!) the next six days will be better than the average of the previous 25.

    If Oscar can have his own units, I'd like to propose one of my own.

    The "E" value is obtained by calculating your earnings over a period and the cost of keeping the SPs in place (in my case that's lost ISA interest, others might use HP payments or even lottery ticket purchases).

    Yesterday was therefore a 5.5 E day and March to date has been 3.3 Es. My worst ever month (Jan this year) was 1.13 Es; May 2012 was 8.5Es

    Always better to give electricity companies a 'real' reading than depend on their estimates ! When prices are rising you usually find they've 'accidentally' underestimated meter readings for changeover date and on the odd occasion when prices have fallen (there have been some) blow me if the forecast wasn't too high.
    NE Derbyshire.4kWp S Facing 17.5deg slope (dormer roof).24kWh of Pylontech batteries with Lux controller BEV : Hyundai Ioniq5
  • John_Pierpoint
    John_Pierpoint Posts: 8,401 Forumite
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    How do you measure the cost of the PV panels, my inverter has not gone phut yet, but it will sometimes in the first 25 years ?
    Mind you the money in the ISA is probably suffering taxation by inflation, at a figure that eats more than the nominal interest rate.
  • EricMears
    EricMears Posts: 3,313 Forumite
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    How do you measure the cost of the PV panels, my inverter has not gone phut yet, but it will sometimes in the first 25 years ?
    Mind you the money in the ISA is probably suffering taxation by inflation, at a figure that eats more than the nominal interest rate.

    If the inverter actually goes wrong then you'd need to recalculate but until it does it's reasonable to ignore the cost. Every chance that it will last at least ten years and then be replaced at considerably less cost than today's estimates. Reasonable chance it will last far longer than that.

    And of course there's always the possibility that SPs themselves will be struck by lightning or have some falling object smash them.

    I like the point about inflation-erosion of the ISA. Arguably I can claim my lost interest as zero and report "E" values of infinity.
    NE Derbyshire.4kWp S Facing 17.5deg slope (dormer roof).24kWh of Pylontech batteries with Lux controller BEV : Hyundai Ioniq5
  • shafeeq
    shafeeq Posts: 973 Forumite
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    1.98 O's today. . can't complain anymore. . should be grateful of any generation compare to last few weeks lol
  • legoman62
    legoman62 Posts: 5,058 Forumite
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    Weather similar to yesterday but, a little more sun so 2.7 O's it is.
    Output = 4000kWh since Nov 2011 install:D
    16 Sanyo Hit 250s.4kWp SMA 3.8kWp inverter. SW roof. 28° pitch. Minimal shade. Nov 2011 install. Hybrid car. Ripple Kirk Hill. N.E Lincs Coast.
  • Oscargrouch
    Oscargrouch Posts: 4,393 Forumite
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    edited 26 March 2013 at 11:27PM
    EricMears wrote: »
    In our case, we've had 60% of the 'old' pvgis forecast but only 55% of the 'new improved estimates'. But pro-rata the 55% goes up to 67% for a full month and (hopefully !!!!) the next six days will be better than the average of the previous 25.

    If Oscar can have his own units, I'd like to propose one of my own.

    The "E" value is obtained by calculating your earnings over a period and the cost of keeping the SPs in place (in my case that's lost ISA interest, others might use HP payments or even lottery ticket purchases).

    Yesterday was therefore a 5.5 E day and March to date has been 3.3 Es. My worst ever month (Jan this year) was 1.13 Es; May 2012 was 8.5Es

    OK for you part timers, who wants to work that one out on a daily basis :doh:.
    EricMears wrote: »
    If the inverter actually goes wrong then you'd need to recalculate but until it does it's reasonable to ignore the cost. Every chance that it will last at least ten years and then be replaced at considerably less cost than today's estimates. Reasonable chance it will last far longer than that.

    And of course there's always the possibility that SPs themselves will be struck by lightning or have some falling object smash them.

    I like the point about inflation-erosion of the ISA. Arguably I can claim my lost interest as zero and report "E" values of infinity.

    You have already described the downfall of such a long winded, precarious calculation; thank you. I would add: If the Inverter went wrong your previously calculated figures would also then be wrong and you would have to edit possibly 6 years of posts on this thread.... I think the new system of a very simple one of O's is much easier to calculate and post and purely takes into account, performance of panel generation, irrespective of that panel size in kWp, which this thread was started for in the first place.

    2.56 O's today, hope that can be worked out easily... ie = X 2.5 in kWh smiley-laughing021.gif That's complicatedsmiley-laughing021.gif
    2.5 kWp PV system, SSW facing, 45 Deg Roof. ABB Inverter, Monitor: 'Wattson'.
    Reg. for FIT Nov 2011. "It's not what you generate; it's how you use it that matters". One very clean Vauxhall Diesel Sri, £30.00 Road Tax: B)

    Definition of 'O's = kWh/kWp (kWh = your daily & accurate Generation figure) (kWp = the rated output of your PV Panels).
  • Martyn1981
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    shafeeq wrote: »
    1.98 O's today. . can't complain anymore. . should be grateful of any generation compare to last few weeks lol

    You got me, 1.97 O's yesterday.

    Forecast for the next week is pretty good, especially tomorrow, so expect more rain and snow.

    Today's forecast is pretty good from 10am onwards, but been generating 500W+ since 7am (700W now), so fingers crossed for a good one.

    If I hit average for the next 5 days, will still close at 78%, a record for me. :(

    Mart.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 28kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
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