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Who can claim income support?

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  • BigAunty
    BigAunty Posts: 8,310 Forumite
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    zagfles wrote: »
    Don't know, ask Gordon Brown. Basically the older you are the more generous benefits get. It is of course pure co-incidence that older people are more likely to vote ;)

    I've seen voting maps which indicate that Labour strongholds are generally in places with higher than average benefit dependency (yes, I know another valid interpretation is deprived communities are naturally more likely to be left-wing).

    And then under Gordon Brown, hundreds of thousands of college and senior school students receive EMA (678,000 or around 47% of college students in England, 32% of all teenagers in age 16-18) alone get it, excluding Scotland/wales/NI)

    then millions started to receive tax credits (9 out of 10 families with children eligible for CRC)

    then there were heating allowances given to millions of pensioners

    then cold weather allowances for certain types of benefits during cold spells, etc, etc.

    Compassion or voting bribes - that's for discussion time, sorry for going off topic, OP.
  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,548 Forumite
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    edited 13 March 2012 at 10:29PM
    zagfles wrote: »
    Don't know, ask Gordon Brown. Basically the older you are the more generous benefits get. It is of course pure co-incidence that older people are more likely to vote ;)

    Yeah, till you get to 65, then you're written off.

    I get income support, as a carer for those written off.
    Once you get to 65 you can get pension credit plus MUCH higher applicable amounts which means more housing benefit/council tax benefit, plus winter fuel allowance, free bus pass etc.

    Benefits for over 65's are generally far more generous than benefits to anyone younger.

    People under state pension age on benefits are expected to survive on about £67 a week before housing costs. People over state pension age get over double that at £137 a week.
  • Samsaragirl
    Samsaragirl Posts: 145 Forumite
    edited 13 March 2012 at 11:00PM
    zagfles wrote: »
    Once you get to 65 you can get pension credit plus MUCH higher applicable amounts which means more housing benefit/council tax benefit, plus winter fuel allowance, free bus pass etc.

    Benefits for over 65's are generally far more generous than benefits to anyone younger.

    People under state pension age on benefits are expected to survive on about £67 a week before housing costs. People over state pension age get over double that at £137 a week.

    LOL. A working class couple, always scrimped and saved.One very disabled with dementia, one just physically disabled. House owned outright, good civil service pensions, half a million savings. BUT have to spend all that and sell house potentially for their care now?

    Fortunately not, as I now will care for both of them till they pass, as an only child, get the mortage on my 300k home paid for, get substantail benefits. Happy days. At least I know they are properly cared for!!

    Otherwise I think the scenario you are describing would be VERY different. What a good daughter I am.:A Love them and it's very hard emotionally. Just been to my very supportive gp today.

    SO they have never claimed anything other than winter fuel benefit in their lives!!!!! Free bus pass never claimed as the new audi dad bought just before his stroke 6 years ago is now in my possession and has still only done 19k.
  • Soapn
    Soapn Posts: 1,521 Forumite
    half a million in saving, saved I presume either for a rainy day or retirement/old age? It sounds as if that time is now, so should be used for care----why not?
    When your life is a mess, stop and think what you are doing before bringing more kids into it, it's not fair on them.
    GLAD NOT TO BE A MEMBER OF THE "ENTITLED TO " UNDER CLASS
  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,548 Forumite
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    LOL. A working class couple, always scrimped and saved.One very disabled with dementia, one just physically disabled. House owned outright, good civil service pensions, half a million savings. BUT have to spend all that and sell house potentially for their care now?

    Fortunately not, as I now will care for both of them till they pass, as an only child, get the mortage on my 300k home paid for, get substantail benefits. Happy days. At least I know they are properly cared for!!

    Otherwise I think the scenario you are describing would be VERY different. What a good daughter I am.:A Love them and it's very hard emotionally. Just been to my very supportive gp today.

    SO they have never claimed anything other than winter fuel benefit in their lives!!!!! Free bus pass never claimed as the new audi dad bought just before his stroke 6 years ago is now in my possession and has still only done 19k.
    They don't get benefits because they have savings. Not because they are older. You wouldn't get anything if you had savings.

    Benefit rules are far more generous to older people - fact.
  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,548 Forumite
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    BigAunty wrote: »
    I've seen voting maps which indicate that Labour strongholds are generally in places with higher than average benefit dependency (yes, I know another valid interpretation is deprived communities are naturally more likely to be left-wing).

    And then under Gordon Brown, hundreds of thousands of college and senior school students receive EMA (678,000 or around 47% of college students in England, 32% of all teenagers in age 16-18) alone get it, excluding Scotland/wales/NI)

    then millions started to receive tax credits (9 out of 10 families with children eligible for CRC)

    then there were heating allowances given to millions of pensioners

    then cold weather allowances for certain types of benefits during cold spells, etc, etc.

    Compassion or voting bribes - that's for discussion time, sorry for going off topic, OP.
    Yes, but it's not just Labour. This govt's cuts probably affect pensioners the least - universal child benefit is under threat but not universal winter heating allowance, child ben and most tax credits are frozen but the state pension increases with earnings, etc.
  • Samsaragirl
    Samsaragirl Posts: 145 Forumite
    Just had a massive triumph in getting the NHS to pay for Continuing Care

    About time

    So !!!! the lot of you dementors

    Get a life!!!!!!

    The half a million will be coming to me
  • Mupette
    Mupette Posts: 4,599 Forumite
    Just had a massive triumph in getting the NHS to pay for Continuing Care

    About time

    So !!!! the lot of you dementors

    Get a life!!!!!!

    The half a million will be coming to me


    only hope one of your parents see this and spends all that money and you get diddly squat
    What a good daughter I am
    yeah sounds like it, all you want is the money.
    GNU
    Terry Pratchett
    ((((Ripples))))
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    Just had a massive triumph in getting the NHS to pay for Continuing Care

    About time

    So !!!! the lot of you dementors

    Get a life!!!!!!

    The half a million will be coming to me

    After IHT which will, hopefully, be increased.
  • dave030445
    dave030445 Posts: 1,001 Forumite
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    zagfles wrote: »
    Once you get to 65 you can get pension credit plus MUCH higher applicable amounts which means more housing benefit/council tax benefit, plus winter fuel allowance, free bus pass etc.

    Benefits for over 65's are generally far more generous than benefits to anyone younger.

    People under state pension age on benefits are expected to survive on about £67 a week before housing costs. People over state pension age get over double that at £137 a week.
    Why do older people need more money My nan has far more coming in each week then she can ever spend.
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