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NPB and 2nd chance offer

Sold an item last night to a bidder who appears to have been watching all along and has bid on 3 separate occasions (i.e. I assume not automated as they've not always been the highest bidder).

Get a message this morning asking to cancel last bid as they bid in error.

Looking at their feedback (7) his last comment from buying a similar item was the seller saying "worst buyer I've ever dealt with".

I've appear to have a good quality 2nd chance offer but that lets the failing bidder off the hook.

Do I have to wait the 4 days before NPB and risk losing the 2nd chance or is there a better way of dealing with this ?

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  • soolin
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    k3lvc wrote: »
    Sold an item last night to a bidder who appears to have been watching all along and has bid on 3 separate occasions (i.e. I assume not automated as they've not always been the highest bidder).

    Get a message this morning asking to cancel last bid as they bid in error.

    Looking at their feedback (7) his last comment from buying a similar item was the seller saying "worst buyer I've ever dealt with".

    I've appear to have a good quality 2nd chance offer but that lets the failing bidder off the hook.

    Do I have to wait the 4 days before NPB and risk losing the 2nd chance or is there a better way of dealing with this ?

    The problem is you have a winner and a second chance offer does not mean that you cancel the original sale.

    The only safe way of going to a SCO is to close the first transaction down first, either by a mutual or by a full NPB. Only then can you go for the SCO safely.
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  • k3lvc
    k3lvc Posts: 4,174 Forumite
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    And if I mutually cancel then my naughty 'winning' bidder gets away with it ? :mad:
  • hermum
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    You can only mutually cancel if they agree. I would do an NPB & hope they don't pay.
    You do have to wait for 4 days & then close it 4 days after.
    At least if they don't pay they get a strike.
    You do of course run the risk that they'll pay up & leave bad FB & stars.
  • k3lvc
    k3lvc Posts: 4,174 Forumite
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    So really it's rock and hard place :mad: - He (or she) has FB of 7 but 8 retractions in last 6 months and I'm now held to ransom - either cancel and he gets to fight another day or NPB and risk trashing my FB/stars
  • soolin
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    k3lvc wrote: »
    So really it's rock and hard place :mad: - He (or she) has FB of 7 but 8 retractions in last 6 months and I'm now held to ransom - either cancel and he gets to fight another day or NPB and risk trashing my FB/stars

    If a non payer doesn't pay before you close the case they cannot leave feedback.
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  • k3lvc
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    soolin wrote: »
    If a non payer doesn't pay before you close the case they cannot leave feedback.

    But as per
    hermum wrote: »
    You do of course run the risk that they'll pay up & leave bad FB & stars.

    they could pay and then spend the next few weeks exacting their revenge
  • hermum
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    k3lvc wrote: »
    But as per



    they could pay and then spend the next few weeks exacting their revenge

    They could, I would take the chance that they wouldn't pay & do the NPB, if others had they would by now be blocked from bidding on most items.
  • knightstyle
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    How does the second chance thing work if you have to wait before contacting the under bidder? As a buyer I have had a couple of second chance offers within 10mins. of the auction ending, unique items so not a case of the seller selling two on one listing.
  • soolin
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    How does the second chance thing work if you have to wait before contacting the under bidder? As a buyer I have had a couple of second chance offers within 10mins. of the auction ending, unique items so not a case of the seller selling two on one listing.

    If a seller has more than one identical item they can start doing SCOs on those duplicate items as soon as auction ends. I do it a lot.
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  • hermum
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    How does the second chance thing work if you have to wait before contacting the under bidder? As a buyer I have had a couple of second chance offers within 10mins. of the auction ending, unique items so not a case of the seller selling two on one listing.

    If there's no chance the seller would have 2 of the same item, it could be that the winner immediately said they didn't want it & the seller did either a mutual, or just let it drop.
    The more cynical among us would say, maybe they're shill bidding.
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