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Toilet with straight down pipe?

We are putting in a small WC under our stairs and we need the waste pipe to go straight down through the floor - like this:

toilet-parts-diagram-2.gif

But I can't seem to find an actual toilet that does this! They all have the pipe coming out the back :(

Can anyone help? I don't want to be spending a massive amound on a small toilet!
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  • ian103
    ian103 Posts: 883 Forumite
    we had the same problem, we used a rak compact toilet with a swan neck connector see floplast section in screwfix/toolstation/b&q etc
  • any idea what part I'd need at floor level? The builders will have to put in the pipework to floor level tomorrow morning so I'm trying to get the things I'll need from B&Q this evening.
  • Leif
    Leif Posts: 3,727 Forumite
    I think what you have there is an old style karzi, modern ones have the opening facing backwards. When my bathroom was redone, they had to move the soil pipe back. The cheesy solution is to have the toilet too far forwards.
    Warning: This forum may contain nuts.
  • ian103
    ian103 Posts: 883 Forumite
    hence the swan neck connector, we needed a small dummy wall (about 70mm) but the front of the pan was no further forward than the old toilet. B&Q won't have a rak pan it comes from proper sanitaryware suppliers not a shed.
  • ian103
    ian103 Posts: 883 Forumite
    http://www.rakceramics.co.uk

    also do small basins ideal for small spaces.
  • southcoastrgi
    southcoastrgi Posts: 6,298 Forumite
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    if the builders are putting a new pipe in why can't they put it close to the back wall ?, i've never seen a pan like that in 32 yrs
    I'm only here while I wait for Corrie to start.

    You get no BS from me & if I think you are wrong I WILL tell you.
  • olly300
    olly300 Posts: 14,738 Forumite
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    if the builders are putting a new pipe in why can't they put it close to the back wall ?, i've never seen a pan like that in 32 yrs

    The clue is in the word "small" indicating a space issue.

    I couldn't remember the part used to put in my own toilet but now I know thanks to ian103. :D
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

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  • southcoastrgi
    southcoastrgi Posts: 6,298 Forumite
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    olly300 wrote: »
    The clue is in the word "small" indicating a space issue.

    I couldn't remember the part used to put in my own toilet but now I know thanks to ian103. :D

    i read the OP post but if you look at the pic you will see the cistern is exactly the same as a modern c/c pan & cistern, so you won't save any space by fitting (if you can get one) a pan like that, the cistern still has to sit at the back of the pan
    I'm only here while I wait for Corrie to start.

    You get no BS from me & if I think you are wrong I WILL tell you.
  • There is the issue of small space, but the main issue is that the on the other side of the wall is the kitchen and unfortunately against that wall is the ONLY place that the fridge can go. We don't have room for it to be set away from the wall to accommodate the pipe and aesthetically it wouldn't look good.

    It's a pain in the backside to be honest, but there you go, it's the way it is. We really want a small WC under the stairs because we have two young boys (one soon to be potty trained) and saves making umpteen trips upstairs a day, but we want our dream kitchen.

    Plumber coming to have a look at another plumbing job tomorrow so will ask him then.

    Thanks for all your help, I think the swan neck thing may be the way to go.

    How expensive are those Rak toilets! I was thinking something more along the lines of £50!
  • Canucklehead
    Canucklehead Posts: 6,254 Forumite
    Hi.

    To answer the question, bottom outlet wc suites are available (pun intended)

    The cost is beyond my control.



    GSR.
    Ask to see CIPHE (Chartered Institute of Plumbing & Heating Engineering)
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