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Unsure about holiday entitlement

I work part time (2 days, Mon & Thurs).

Even thought it's now March, I've only just seen my holiday sheet for this year and I'm not sure if it's right.

Looking at my holiday sheet, they've calculated my Pro-rata holidays as 12 days, they have taken off 5 x bank holidays which are:-

2nd Jan, 9th April, 7th May, 4th June and 27th Aug.

Also taken off are 3 "compulsory shut down days" which are 24th, 27th and 31st Dec. Last year this was only 2, but they have sneaked in Xmas eve. I guess the boss and his g/f have decided they don't want to work that day and so have taken it off everybody's entitlement :(

This leaves me with 4 "bookable" days. I know last year the holidays were wrong to begin with and she had to do them again. I am not in till tomorrow, so I'm going to question it. Plus I'm not happy about the extra day over xmas. The other part-time lady who works Tues/Weds has got 6 bookable days and I'm sure that's what I got last year. Apart from the extra day at Xmas, there's a day missing somewhere.

Does this seem right to you?
Striving to clear the mortgage before it finishes in Dec 2028 - amount currently owed - £18,886.27
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  • ceh209
    ceh209 Posts: 877 Forumite
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    I'm assuming:

    a) your holiday year runs Jan - Dec?
    b) you didn't work on 2nd Jan?


    What would the full time holiday entitlement be at your place of work?
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  • Abbafan1972
    Abbafan1972 Posts: 7,179 Forumite
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    a) Yes
    b) no

    I have seen 2 full time workers holidays sheets and they both have 16 days.
    Striving to clear the mortgage before it finishes in Dec 2028 - amount currently owed - £18,886.27
  • clairec79
    clairec79 Posts: 2,512 Forumite
    but 16 days is less than the legal requirement - what is the fulltime total (including compulsory days)
  • ceh209
    ceh209 Posts: 877 Forumite
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    I have seen 2 full time workers holidays sheets and they both have 16 days.

    I meant before all the bank holidays and enforced closures etc, but I'll work with this as an estimate.

    10 bank holidays this year, 3 days at xmas = 29 days for a full timer.

    You work 2 (full?) days so 2/5 * 29 = 11.6 days, rounded up to 12.

    So the entitlement looks right. Someone else will be able to confirm whether they can dictate so many of your holidays to you - but I think the answer is that they can, sorry.
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  • mildred1978
    mildred1978 Posts: 3,367 Forumite
    ceh209 wrote: »
    10 bank holidays this year, 3 days at xmas = 29 days for a full timer.

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    There are normally 8 public holidays a year - there are 9 this year (Scotland may be different.....?)
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  • Abbafan1972
    Abbafan1972 Posts: 7,179 Forumite
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    edited 7 March 2012 at 10:38AM
    I meant 16 "bookable" days, after the compulsory shut down ones. Which, I think If you're full timer, would be about 4? I don't know.

    Yes, I work 2 full days. I can't look again at the sheets as I'm off today. So I'll try and have another look when I'm back in. Although I did photocopy my own to bring it home with me.

    I will speak to the queen bee tomorrow and see what she says.
    Striving to clear the mortgage before it finishes in Dec 2028 - amount currently owed - £18,886.27
  • Notmyrealname
    Notmyrealname Posts: 4,003 Forumite
    2 full days entitles you to 11.2 days paid holiday per year. They're giving you more than you're legally entitled to. They can specify when you take holidays. They're doing nothing wrong and are correct in what you are getting.
  • KiKi
    KiKi Posts: 5,381 Forumite
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    edited 7 March 2012 at 11:30AM
    OP - yes, your company are correct. To explain why this is:

    You have 28 days legal min requirement PAID holiday entitlement, for full time staff. In your company, they shut for 8 BHs and for 3 compulsory days, so that leaves 17 bookable days for full time staff.

    As a part-timer, you have to pro-rata the TOTAL holiday requirement (inc BHs and AL) - you don't split by BHs and Annual Leave. So 2 days a week = 11.2 days PAID holiday entitlement a year (28 days paid leave divided by 5 days a week, multiplied by the two days you work).

    What is VERY unfortunate for you is that you work Mondays, and only 2 days a week. This means that a disproportionate number of BHs and compulsory closures fall on your working days. You are getting the right amount of paid leave, but you have very little flexibility in when you can take it.

    If you worked Tues and Weds then you'd only have 2 enforced days off, and the rest you could choose.

    That's just the way it is when you're a part-timer; the moral is: never work Mondays if you are part-time and only doing 1-3 days a week!

    Hope that helps to explain the situation. :)

    KiKi
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  • ceh209
    ceh209 Posts: 877 Forumite
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    There are normally 8 public holidays a year - there are 9 this year (Scotland may be different.....?)

    Oops... had in my head there are normally 9. That shows the optimist in me :D
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  • paddedjohn
    paddedjohn Posts: 7,512 Forumite
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    OP, as already pointed out above you are entitled to 11.2 days holiday which your employer is rounding up to 12 days. If the employer wished to they could dictate when you took each and every day without you having a choice.
    Be Alert..........Britain needs lerts.
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