Appealing code 27 parking ticket

donell

I was in Leeds this Saturday and received a parking ticket. It was because they said I parked next to a dropped kerb. I didn't see this when I parked. Can anyone give me any advice on possibly appealing this?

kizkiz

You comitted the offence but want to appeal it because you didn't notice at the time?
I think you may need a little bit more than that to win an appeal

Coupon-mad

donell wrote: »

I was in Leeds this Saturday and received a parking ticket. It was because they said I parked next to a dropped kerb. I didn't see this when I parked. Can anyone give me any advice on possibly appealing this?

Well the more helpful advice is to be found here:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30

Dropped kerb contraventions are harder to find winning appeal points for as there's no need for lines or signs but you never know, you may as well take pictures of the PCN (both sides) and put it in a new topic on the pepipoo forum I have linked with your request for help.

You may as well make an informal appeal as long as it is received before day 14 as most Councils will re-offer the discount 'when' they reject it. And maybe some stronger grounds for further stages of appeal be become apparent when you post on pepipoo. Worth a shot before paying up.

esmerobbo

It would depend on what type of dropped kerb it was. A pedestrian one will be difficult but a residential one may be appeal-able. As coupon Mad says Pepipoo is your best bet.

flashnazia

Dropped kerb contraventions are harder to find winning appeal points for as there's no need for lines or signs but you never know

I thought that was for London only, all other areas have to provide signage no? Would be grateful for clarification.

Coupon-mad

flashnazia wrote: »

I thought that was for London only, all other areas have to provide signage no? Would be grateful for clarification.

No, I believe that any Council can become a 'Special Enforcement area' and enforce dropped kerb contraventions as well as 'more than 50cm from the kerb' and other such trumped up excuses to extort money from car owners.

It is not just London, it's random areas who want to exercise this 'power'.

I am from Sussex, and Brighton & Hove enforce dropped kerb PCNs (although in residential property cases, it is only as a result of a complaint from the householder and there must be a white H line on the road as well).

flashnazia

Coupon-mad wrote: »

No, I believe that any Council can become a 'Special Enforcement area' and enforce dropped kerb contraventions as well as 'more than 50cm from the kerb' and other such trumped up excuses to extort money from car owners.

It is not just London, it's random areas who want to exercise this 'power'.

I am from Sussex, and Brighton & Hove enforce dropped kerb PCNs (although in residential property cases, it is only as a result of a complaint from the householder and there must be a white H line on the road as well).

Where u live there is a white line showing dropped kerbs though. If there is nothing to show it how will a driver know?

This is interesting from pages 36 to 48.

http://davidmarq.com/uploaderv6_1/files/7/Parking%20Report%202009_10.pdf

Coupon-mad

Drivers often do not know unless they saw the dropped kerb and ignored it.

I think in Brighton the 'white line' is only needed outside residential properties. For other dropped kerbs - such as commercial premises and at junctions to help people with disabilities to cross the road - there are no white lines of course, and no signs. You can find each Council's approach to dropped kerb PCN enforcement by looking on their website or by Googling the Council name and 'dropped kerb PCN enforcement'.

They don't need lines or signs as the dropped kerb is deemed enough to communicate the restriction.

Basically the answer is, wherever you are, do not park adjacent to a dropped kerb. Can't be that hard - I never have done and don't see why anyone would TBH. Unless the dropped kerb was just a series of vaguely lower kerbstones & unclear as a dropped kerb for crossing the road or specifically for access to/from premises for bikes/cars (in which case appeal it of course).