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second hand car trouble
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i said these arent worth a lot when the dealer offered 200 sovs for one the other day
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3825785
unfortunately one of our comrades is finding out the hard way all the problems these old vauxhalls have
Indeed. All very true0 -
Wear and tear.
A diesel pump is designed to last longer than two months, so if anything it proves it was sold with a fault.
Maybe two months is a long time to you, it's not to most car owners.0 -
Wear and tear.
A diesel pump is designed to last longer than two months, so if anything it proves it was sold with a fault.
Maybe two months is a long time to you, it's not to most car owners.
No, and this is where you are very wrong.
Its not wear and tear from the point of purchase, its wear and tear within the lifetime of the car.
The question IS NOT
"is it reasonable that a fuel pump has failed inside two months of ownership?"
The question IS
"is it reasonable that a fuel pump fails on an 11 year old vauxhall with 134K miles?"
And the answer to that yes it probably is reasonable, its WEAR and TEAR.
That information came to be from Consumer Direct themselves.
What you are saying is actually quite proposterous when you think about it. You are saying that a trader selling say, a £995 car with 134K miles on it has to warrant that ALL parts will continue to function for SIX months trouble free. Even Vauxhall themselves dont provide that length of warranty!!!0 -
Wear and tear.
A diesel pump is designed to last longer than two months, so if anything it proves it was sold with a fault.
Maybe two months is a long time to you, it's not to most car owners.
Even what you are saying is quite silly - "a diesel pump is designed to last longer than two months" - thats true - it HAS lasted more than two months - its lasted ELEVEN YEARS!!!!! THUS its wear and tear!!!
"so if anything it proves it was sold with a fault" - totally correct IF IT WAS A TWO MONTH OLD FUEL PUMP - but its not its ELEVEN YEARS OLD - thus making it NOT a fault, its wear and tear!!!
Do you really think that buying an eleven year old car in the twilight years of its lifespan is EXACTLY the same as buying a brand new one, and that all parts magically become brand new again??0 -
Well, was worth quoting me twice?
Next time just edit the first post.
Either way, the fault must have been present, so it's down to the op, they can either go with consumer direct, or a motor dealer off the internet.0 -
No, and this is where you are very wrong.
Its not wear and tear from the point of purchase, its wear and tear within the lifetime of the car.
The question IS NOT
"is it reasonable that a fuel pump has failed inside two months of ownership?"
The question IS
"is it reasonable that a fuel pump fails on an 11 year old vauxhall with 134K miles?"
And the answer to that yes it probably is reasonable, its WEAR and TEAR.
That information came to be from Consumer Direct themselves.
What you are saying is actually quite proposterous when you think about it. You are saying that a trader selling say, a £995 car with 134K miles on it has to warrant that ALL parts will continue to function for SIX months trouble free. Even Vauxhall themselves dont provide that length of warranty!!!
i have only just seen these points but i totally agree with pgilc1 i too deal s/h motors and bend over backwards to accomodate all reasonable requests but i too have a 50/50 policy if it is deemed wear and tear and i have no problems with any govt agencies
i would go further and say seeing as micky72 has admitted being a part time kerb side trader he has no idea what he is talking about
and is indeed a patsy to reading the bits that makes him feel big on here to newbies
me?
i just laugh and carry on paying my legal obligation bills
oh
and taxes0 -
i have only just seen these points but i totally agree with pgilc1 i too deal s/h motors and bend over backwards to accomodate all reasonable requests but i too have a 50/50 policy if it is deemed wear and tear and i have no problems with any govt agencies
i would go further and say seeing as micky72 has admitted being a part time kerb side trader he has no idea what he is talking about
and is indeed a patsy to reading the bits that makes him feel big on here to newbies
me?
i just laugh and carry on paying my legal obligation bills
oh
and taxes
Make a nice profit from selling it, then another tidy profit from fixing it a month or two later?
No wonder you laugh.0 -
Well, was worth quoting me twice?
Next time just edit the first post.
Either way, the fault must have been present, so it's down to the op, they can either go with consumer direct, or a motor dealer off the internet.
So you still think an eleven year old fuel pump becomes new when its sold to a customer? :rotfl:
The car drove successfully for two months before it wore out, therefore that clearly shows the fault wasnt present at the time of sale.
I am merely quoting what consumer direct told me when i spoke to them last week RE: a clutch on a Saab - the definition of wear and tear is 'is it reasonable for a car with X miles and X years old to have this part wear out?' If the answer is 'Yes' then its not up to the dealer to fix, if its 'no' then it 'could' be defined as a fault. Its then up to the dealer to prove the fault wasnt there at the time of sale - quite easy in this case as the car drove for two months.
Also, the dealer is showing goodwill. This according to CD, is very important.
Do you really really think that all parts become 'as new' when someone buys an eleven year old car???
Actually you dont need to answer that - from your post above you clearly do. Maybe its time to find start living in reality?
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Make a nice profit from selling it, then another tidy profit from fixing it a month or two later?
No wonder you laugh.
Not all traders have in house mechanics - i dont, and i only know a few who do. Therefore there is a real cost involved in the labour. Also, if they DO have an in house mechanic, then they dont work for FREE. And finally, if they are working on something for FREE, then they are not doing revenue earning work to do so.
The trader has offered to buy the part, and have the customer pay for the labour.
I think thats fairly decent of them.0 -
................I am merely quoting what consumer direct told me when i spoke to them last week RE: a clutch on a Saab - the definition of wear and tear is 'is it reasonable for a car with X miles and X years old to have this part wear out?' .....................
Maybe you got away with it, maybe your customer will see you in court, who knows?0
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