motability/payments

sweetiex

hi just wondered if anyone knows how this works,when we first got the motability car,we were told by the salesman that because of the car that was picked it was for the full allowance,then he said for each year going by when the benefit increases,they dont receive the extra money the car stays the same,so i would like to know were it goes then,surely that should be going to my husband?

moose1982

The extra bit it increases by each year goes to Motability, you won't see the extra at all.

I suspect the way it works is that Motability know, roughly, how much it will increase by each year and so use the projected overall amount to ensure any Advance Payments are as little as possible.

uponahill

sweetiex wrote: »

hi just wondered if anyone knows how this works,when we first got the motability car,we were told by the salesman that because of the car that was picked it was for the full allowance,then he said for each year going by when the benefit increases,they dont receive the extra money the car stays the same,so i would like to know were it goes then,surely that should be going to my husband?

No, the general increases in benefit each year for HRM go to Motability.

This will have been factored in when you took out the agreement.

Your husband will NOT get any increases.

By the way are you happy that he will pass the new PIP tests that start this year? A great number of people that currently get DLA - HRM will lose it and the car when they move him over, unless he is wheelchair bound.

Richie-from-the-Boro

sweetiex wrote: »

hi just wondered if anyone knows how this works,when we first got the motability car,we were told by the salesman that because of the car that was picked it was for the full allowance,then he said for each year going by when the benefit increases,they dont receive the extra money the car stays the same,so i would like to know were it goes then,surely that should be going to my husband?

Your husband contracted to exchange his HRMC of DLA [or the War Pensioners Mobility Supplement] for a car of his choice, the lease also includes insurance, servicing and repairs, breakdown cover and tyres .. .. in fact every thing but fuel.

Full allowance means full allowance :

- it means if the value of HRMC of DLA goes down
- it means if the value of HRMC of DLA goes up
- it means if the value of HRMC of DLA stays the same

.. .. that's the agreement you have with Motability

sunnyone

The motability contract for the majority of vehicles is T/A as in total allowance so any increase foes to motability as they get the total allowance for the period of the contract.

The time to ask these questions is before you sign up and of course you can "ask mo" at anytime.

gingergee

PIP is factored in from october 2013 for those already claiming DLA. The changeover is happening in stages starting with those claiming the longest and those who are up for renewal. Should take around 3 year, ending with those on indefinate awards, I got a PIP info pamphlet in my award letter last week x

uponahill

gingergee wrote: »

PIP is factored in from october 2013 for those already claiming DLA. The changeover is happening in stages starting with those claiming the longest and those who are up for renewal. Should take around 3 year, ending with those on indefinate awards, I got a PIP info pamphlet in my award letter last week x

Good, at last they are getting off their westminster backsides and doing something about the abuse, fraud and error involved with DLA.

Those that have been on it the longest without regular reviews need to be the first!

Shame that they aren't working harder and faster in bringing in UC!

DLA - R.I.P.!!

atrixblue.-MFR-.

uponahill wrote: »

Good, at last they are getting off their westminster backsides and doing something about the abuse, fraud and error involved with DLA.

Those that have been on it the longest without regular reviews need to be the first!

Shame that they aren't working harder and faster in bringing in UC!

DLA - R.I.P.!!

abuse fruad? sorry, DLA isnt dished out to people like sweets, i faught a very hard and long battle to get my DLA being turned down at every opertunity they had at file level, even with overwhelming evidence to support my mobility and care needs and condition it ended up at tribunal level, where the DWP didnt bother attending (they do on some cases where they blieve they will win the decsion) so in my experience DLA is a hard benefit to claim for.

uponahill

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

abuse fruad? sorry, DLA isnt dished out to people like sweets, i faught a very hard and long battle to get my DLA being turned down at every opertunity they had at file level, even with overwhelming evidence to support my mobility and care needs and condition it ended up at tribunal level, where the DWP didnt bother attending (they do on some cases where they blieve they will win the decsion) so in my experience DLA is a hard benefit to claim for.

If you have good evidence up front and a GP that will confirm everything to the DWP, it isn't hard to get.

I had no problem getting HRM/MRC, and like many others I had a phone call telling me that a decision had been made and what it was. I already knew as the backdated payment went in the day before.

Your problem would seem to be that you either didn't have the right type of evidence to start with and that your GP didn't give you a good report maybe because he/she thought that you didn't have a problem with mobility or care.
Maybe you don't discuss your problems with your GP.
You seem to have forgotten the 'error' value lost to the government!! Fraud isn't the only problem.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

uponahill wrote: »

If you have good evidence up front and a GP that will confirm everything to the DWP, it isn't hard to get.

I had no problem getting HRM/MRC, and like many others I had a phone call telling me that a decision had been made and what it was. I already knew as the backdated payment went in the day before.

Your problem would seem to be that you either didn't have the right type of evidence to start with and that your GP didn't give you a good report maybe because he/she thought that you didn't have a problem with mobility or care.
Maybe you don't discuss your problems with your GP.
You seem to have forgotten the 'error' value lost to the government!! Fraud isn't the only problem.

its not that simple, claim, gp backs you up and badabing you got it. my GP supported me, i seen the report he gave, but was minimal as he dont do home visits and i rarely seen him because i was under specialist consunltant so he was none the wiser to my needs at home or out. consultant backed me up too. as with many reports i had sent them along with an IB atos assessment report detailing i was in excempt catagory and scoring highly in the report. then i was subject to another atos assessment for DLA wich they tried to cancel the day it was due to take place but the assessor did not get the message and it was completed anyway ( i called them after i was declined for a recon some 6 days later) and they hadnt seen the report at that stage form ATOS and they told me they had canceled the assessment due to making the decision prior to that day it was completed, they had no option but to make a recon with new evidence from the ATOA assessor, who made a complete pigs ear of the report contradicting and GUESSING himself, i was still declined, then it went to tribunal 13 months later, the tribunal had fun picking holes in the DWP's decision and shocked at Atos when comparing my IB assessment evidence to the DLA assessment evidence, the assessor was the same person to carryout both assessments, the assessments were both 3 months appart from each other, IB one was of excempt catagory scoring highly in most descriptors, but yet i was able to walk talk run jump climbcook clean hoover! carry all without problems. the assessor didnt perform any walking tests but accurately describe me as walking in excess of 200meters without pain discomfort or breathlessness you get the picture right i also had a witness at the assessment, who rote a statement to the fact that what was said at assessment was not what reflected in the report, also the assessor changed his first and second initials on the report so the names didnt tally up on the reports but he was the same person! tribunal did not take too kindly to that and said they would deal with that aspect of it. the tribunal said after looking through my evidence that there was only one question in despute and i had already met criteria for LRC, the question was answered and i got HRM to wich the tribunal closed saying that they would make a complaint to Atos about the conduct in wich the report was filled out as it was misleading, the DWP should have awarded at least LRC anyway evidence clear outlined that along with case law, they could only see one thing and that was one question that needed clarifying.

so no in my case it wasnt easily obtainable, even with supportive evidence from consultants and GP and my own.

Anubis_2

For disabilities that are "invisible" to the eye it tends to be very difficult to get, especially nowadays. I was "unofficially" informed from an official in the "know" that the main targets they want to remove from PIP are those with the "can't walk because if my bad back" type.

However it was "unofficial" and said to my friend at our house who had one leg amputated after several years of suffering with it. He was wondering how he would get on as he had a trial PIP form, and that was the response he got.