Why should healthcare be 'free'?

Carl31

StevieJ wrote: »

I think there are more people who don't get checked out when they should do.

well maybe, but people not going to the docs doesnt add any strain to the NHS

if the NHS was sharpened up, it may actually lead to an incline in people that should be going getting the correct treatment, as those that shouldnt are not draining resources

JonnyBravo

Intoodeep wrote: »

The biggest phallacy in the known universe....

Something on your mind???
fnarr fnarr

StevieJ

Kennyboy66 wrote: »

Really ?

The last OECD report seemed to disagree with you.

The main problem is that too much of the huge increase in health spending during Labour's period was spent on increased pay - rather than improved treatment.
GP's being the most overpaid by international comparisons.

This is not however "being inefficient" - a canard, you seem obsessed with.

I never understood why that happened.

StevieJ

Carl31 wrote: »

well maybe, but people not going to the docs doesnt add any strain to the NHS

if the NHS was sharpened up, it may actually lead to an incline in people that should be going getting the correct treatment, as those that shouldnt are not draining resources

I think it does when their condition unnecessarily worsens :eek:

DominicJ_2

If the NHS was made pay for use, you could give every man woman and child in the country £2000 per year.
Just heart disease costs £16bn per year, very little actual "disease" most relates to poor diet and lack of exercise.
We take money from people to pay for expensive heart operations, meaning those people cant afford a running machine and better quality food, and so need future expensive heart operations.

Bonkers, but the proles heart the nhs, even as it murders them.

SingleSue

StevieJ wrote: »

I think there are more people who don't get checked out when they should do.

I'm one of them, I only go to the doctors when I really, absolutely, have to and by then, I am usually pretty sick and get told off. I always feel like I may be wasting the doctor's time with petty stuff so don't go earlier. Most of the time it works and whatever was worrying me resolves itself without having to see the doctor and sometimes (very rarely), it doesn't.

Mind you, that is what culminated in my emergency admission in December for sepsis.

HappyMJ

I've pretty much given up trying to get appointments with my GP. In fact I only ever have seen him once when I registered 10 years ago and I was perfectly well then. I've been to the hospital every time for illness and injury a few times over the last 10 years. We need more GP's....

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HappyMJ wrote: »

I've pretty much given up trying to get appointments with my GP. In fact I only ever have seen him once when I registered 10 years ago and I was perfectly well then. I've been to the hospital every time for illness and injury a few times over the last 10 years. We need more GP's....

And who says NHS resources are being used inappropriately!

lostinrates

DominicJ wrote: »

If the NHS was made pay for use, you could give every man woman and child in the country £2000 per year.
Just heart disease costs £16bn per year, very little actual "disease" most relates to poor diet and lack of exercise.
We take money from people to pay for expensive heart operations, meaning those people cant afford a running machine and better quality food, and so need future expensive heart operations.

Bonkers, but the proles heart the nhs, even as it murders them.

£2000 is nothing for good health. Honestly its not. I would consider swapping a kidney or a limb for otherwise good health, let alone two thousand pounds a year. You want to see what going private for a comex medical problem does to your npbank balance! Of course....the nhs couldn't treat my most serious problem at all.(and neither should they have done, rare problems that leave someone unlikely to return to the work force are not best value)


The problem is that IMO the money and the system is not best used.

E.g. I would have found it easier if i could have integrated my privavte and nhs healthcare instead of having to come off private for the things nhs didn't provide and simply go with out.

Now, after some mixed very good and very bad experience of nhs i find my self fearful, untrusting and self medicating.

lostinrates

ringo_24601 wrote: »

And who says NHS resources are being used inappropriately!

People who do not understand that many gp pravtices...not all, do not meet the needs of their working patients.