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Why no birth control ?

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  • nuttywoman
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    Actually i thought when i saw the latest news that maybe if the women in these poor drought ridden areas were the kids are suffering through starvation just had a years break from having a child , then their bodies would benefit as well as their kids .
  • ska_lover
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    I think this is interesting OP, and a question I have pondered myself before now.

    Someone earlier mentioned that they may well be Catholics who's rules on contraception are archaic. No contraception = the spread of Aids = Complete ignorance.

    What kind of person, after spending their own life starving and living in such bad conditions, would deliberately get themselves pregnant? They have failed their kids before they are even born.
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  • ska_lover wrote: »
    How, after all that, can people still have to walk miles for water?

    Agreed - they need to relocate their mud hut a little closer to the river perhaps?
  • Derivative
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    In some third world countries it is actually beneficial to have more children. Child labour means that your kids can be an income source.

    In addition if infant mortality is high, you want to have 5 kids so that a few of them actually survive.
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  • Oh come on...let them enjoy what they can!
  • Are you suggesting that these people have access to contraception and are choosing not to use it? I suspect that is not the case. Often women in developing countries have little or no education and may not even be aware that contraception exists, let alone having easy access to it.
  • Nara
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    I feel that if the whole world doesn't start to control population growth then we may well all find ourselves in the same boat, and it won't be pretty.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7974995.stm

    We are all living on the edge and it won't take much for it to all go wrong (thinking a EMP pulse which is due this year btw :P)

    http://modernsurvivalblog.com/solar-cycle/global-power-grid-vulnerability-into-2012/

    Call me pessimistic or laugh at those end of the world predictions that never happen but I have done quite a lot of research into this and its completely possible, even NASA are worried and trying to warn the government that this will happen, its just a case of when.

    It wouldn't take much for us to end up like a third world country.

    But I guess I am digressing from the OP's question, sorry about that :P Just wondering if one day it will be us in the position of questioning if we should be having children or not? or at least limiting how many children we have to maybe one per family.
  • bargainbetty
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    edited 16 February 2012 at 12:16PM
    melanzana wrote: »
    Anyhow, Catholics can use contraceptives nowadays. I'm from Ireland FGS and our birthrate is falling fast! I doubt any aid worker no matter the religion, or none, would object to a long term contraceptive like the Mirena Coil. But maybe the people who would benefit from that don't want it.

    Actually, you will find that within the last five years the Pope has not only refused to acknowledge the right to contraception, or grant the need for it in developing countries, but participation in aid programmes organised by the Catholic Church (food, education, medication etc) is dependant on the needy converting to Catholicism and following the doctrines. The same Pope also falsely claimed that condoms do not stop the spread of AIDS, but actually increase your likelihood of getting it, thus destroying years of education and healthcare in one fail swoop, and condemning vast swathes of sub-Saharan Africans to a miserable disease and death.

    Educated westerners, who are rapidly becoming more secular anyway (even believers) should not be compared to those who grow up without the benefit of education or healthcare, and are essentially told that the way out of starvation is to follow God's plan, which happens to involve unprotected sex within marriage.

    Secular aid workers in Uganda. Rwanda and other African countries have been begging the See of Rome for years to stop this - to accept that family planning and condoms are better for public health, not only to stop over-population of an area with scant resources, but also to limit the spread of HIV and to stop women dying in childbirth for want of basic hygiene knowledge and medical care. The Bishop of Rome has repeatedly ignored the medical and social evidence of his actions, and continues to refuse calls for a change.

    I shall get off my soap box and go back to work :)
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  • I had it explained to me one time that the reason for having a large number of children in poor countries is basically down to the woman providing herself with her own personal "Welfare State". That is, in this country we have a Welfare State and State Pension etc to ensure we have income during old age, but in these poorer countries the children ARE the income in old age (ie they financially support the parents later on in life).

    That, at least, I understand even if I don't agree with it. I can't figure out why it happens in Western countries though (well I couldn't until the huge tranche of recent payments for having children of recent years came along....).:(. Though I dont think those having large numbers of children in Western countries for the sake of the payouts have really thought it through to "Those payouts will stop once the children are adults and they won't be supporting us themselves either".

    I think you'll find in poor countries they don't have Marie Stopes that they can nip down to, as you did, and get some tubes tied.
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