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How many hours holiday?
kingfisherblue
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Hi, I'm posting on behalf of a friend - I hope I have enough information.
She works in a private nursery, four mornings a week (Mon-Thu). Total hours are 10.5 per week. Staff who work all day work 27.5 hours per week.
When there is a bank holiday, she does not get paid for the Monday, although that is a usual working day for her. The nursery is closed on bank holidays.
I know that for a full time worker, minimum holidays are 28 days which can include bank holidays, but I always get very confused about pro rata holidays. She is given holidays in hours, but when I saw her last night, she couldn't remember how many hours she gets per year. She isn't sure when the holiday year runs from, but she started at the beginning of September.
I know that employers can state when holidays have to be taken.
I know that there is some information missing, but my friend admits that she understands absolutely zilch about holiday entitlement. It came up as a result of a discussion regarding the Brownies not meeting on a bank holiday, as we were at a Brownie planning meeting at the time. She commented that she doesn't get paid when the nursery is closed on bank holidays, but that she doesn't know how holidays are worked out and how many hours she should be entitled to. I said that I would ask on here for an explanation, as I didn't know the answer.
Hope someone can help
She works in a private nursery, four mornings a week (Mon-Thu). Total hours are 10.5 per week. Staff who work all day work 27.5 hours per week.
When there is a bank holiday, she does not get paid for the Monday, although that is a usual working day for her. The nursery is closed on bank holidays.
I know that for a full time worker, minimum holidays are 28 days which can include bank holidays, but I always get very confused about pro rata holidays. She is given holidays in hours, but when I saw her last night, she couldn't remember how many hours she gets per year. She isn't sure when the holiday year runs from, but she started at the beginning of September.
I know that employers can state when holidays have to be taken.
I know that there is some information missing, but my friend admits that she understands absolutely zilch about holiday entitlement. It came up as a result of a discussion regarding the Brownies not meeting on a bank holiday, as we were at a Brownie planning meeting at the time. She commented that she doesn't get paid when the nursery is closed on bank holidays, but that she doesn't know how holidays are worked out and how many hours she should be entitled to. I said that I would ask on here for an explanation, as I didn't know the answer.
Hope someone can help
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She should start by asking her employer. We don't know how her employer does things or what her holiday entitlement is. All we can say is that the statutory minimum entitlement is 28 days, pro-rata'd. There is a Ready Reckoner on the BIS website.0
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http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/Timeoffandholidays/DG_10029788 is beautifully clear.
- you are entitled to a minimum of 5.6 weeks paid annual leave - 28 days for someone working five days a week (capped at a statutory maximum of 28 days for all working patterns)
- part-time workers are entitled to the same level of holiday pro rata (so 5.6 times your usual working week, eg 22.4 days for someone working four days a week)
Ex board guide. Signature now changed (if you know, you know).0 -
Also not forgetting the Jubilee extra holiday entitlement this year.
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Mrs_Arcanum wrote: »Also not forgetting the Jubilee extra holiday entitlement this year.

It's not a bank holiday so may have to be taken from leave entitlement (ie 1 day less holiday this year for full time workers).Science adjusts its views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved.
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jobbingmusician wrote: »http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/Timeoffandholidays/DG_10029788 is beautifully clear.
- you are entitled to a minimum of 5.6 weeks paid annual leave - 28 days for someone working five days a week (capped at a statutory maximum of 28 days for all working patterns)
- part-time workers are entitled to the same level of holiday pro rata (so 5.6 times your usual working week, eg 22.4 days for someone working four days a week)
Yes but that is simply the statutory minimum entitlement. And we already know the OP does not get paid for bank holidays. The Op's friend needs to take some responsibility for this and ask her employer what her entitlement is.0 -
mildred1978 wrote: »It's not a bank holiday so may have to be taken from leave entitlement (ie 1 day less holiday this year for full time workers).
Not according to Direct Gov though the details have yet to be confirmed. There IS an extra day.Truth always poses doubts & questions. Only lies are 100% believable, because they don't need to justify reality. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon, The Labyrinth of the Spirits0 -
Yes but that is simply the statutory minimum entitlement. And we already know the OP does not get paid for bank holidays. The Op's friend needs to take some responsibility for this and ask her employer what her entitlement is.
Sounds like the company could be shooting themselves in the foot holiday wise.Truth always poses doubts & questions. Only lies are 100% believable, because they don't need to justify reality. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon, The Labyrinth of the Spirits0 -
Also not forgetting the Jubilee extra holiday entitlement this year.
There is no entitlement to extra day's holiday for this. Even if it is announced as a bank holiday. Some employers may choose to treat it as an extra day, but I expect most will take it from the usual annual leave allowance, same as the royal wedding day last year.
To be honest we are tempted to just ignore it and let our employees make their own choice, either take it as a day holiday or come in and work as usual. I think most would rather work it than lose a day's holiday for nothing much.Cash not ash from January 2nd 2011: £2565.:j
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Any advice given is as an individual, not as a representative of my firm.0 -
heretolearn wrote: »Also not forgetting the Jubilee extra holiday entitlement this year.
There is no entitlement to extra holiday for this. Some employers may choose to treat it as an extra day, but I expect most will take it from the usual annual leave allowance, same as the royal wedding day last year.
To be honest we are tempted to just ignore it and let our employees make their own choice, either take it as a day holiday or come in and work as usual. I think most would rather work it than lose a day's holiday for nothing much.
Must be because I work for a lovely company I shall get an extra day's holiday
Truth always poses doubts & questions. Only lies are 100% believable, because they don't need to justify reality. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon, The Labyrinth of the Spirits0 -
She really needs to find out what her holiday allowance is --- The pro-rata allowance for Bank Holidays may be included in her total holiday allowance so if she wanted to be paid for it she would need to take it as holiday in the same way that if a bank holiday falls on a day she does not normally work she would not need to use any holiday for it.0
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