PSNI pay Grafton £41m in last 3 years

x12yhp

I would not agree with view about police recruits being undertrained. They are not, they are trained perfectly adequately and are actually much more competent than their counterparts elsewhere in the country. The problem is the experience which is something that has been forced upon us by those failing to see the bigger picture whilst demanding the 50:50 levels. Experience remains but much has been lost and will take time to recover. Unfortunately the present situation requires that there are no promotions so the only thing for officers to do is to shift around... something which does nothing for experience because as soon as they get good at something, they shift elsewhere!

caz2703

I recall an old acquaintance telling the story of a chap who was PSNI agency staff for Grafton but who was also applying to the PSNI itself. The story went that he had gone through at least 6 attempts at the recruitment process but each time failed on the 50:50. Getting rather jacked off he submitted a Freedom of Information request and was disgusted to learn that his scores had rated higher than most of the successful Catholic candidates but because he was of the worst possible sex/religion combination, he didn't get in. On his next attempt he changed his sexual persuasion and lo and behold, found himself accepted! Now I'm not sure if the acceptance was from his heterosexual application or subsequent homosexual application as from what I was told, you have to start your next application not knowing if the previous one was successful.

I don't have an opinion one way or the other but I do abhor 'positive discrimination'. I would hate to find out that I was only employed to fill the female quota in an organisation. Maybe others are different and I guess given the current employment situation you're not going to turn down a job but if you had a good idea that you weren't employed on merit, would it not make you feel a bit sick?

spike7451

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x12yhp

caz2703 wrote: »

I recall an old acquaintance telling the story of a chap who was PSNI agency staff for Grafton but who was also applying to the PSNI itself. The story went that he had gone through at least 6 attempts at the recruitment process but each time failed on the 50:50. Getting rather jacked off he submitted a Freedom of Information request and was disgusted to learn that his scores had rated higher than most of the successful Catholic candidates but because he was of the worst possible sex/religion combination, he didn't get in. On his next attempt he changed his sexual persuasion and lo and behold, found himself accepted! Now I'm not sure if the acceptance was from his heterosexual application or subsequent homosexual application as from what I was told, you have to start your next application not knowing if the previous one was successful.

I don't have an opinion one way or the other but I do abhor 'positive discrimination'. I would hate to find out that I was only employed to fill the female quota in an organisation. Maybe others are different and I guess given the current employment situation you're not going to turn down a job but if you had a good idea that you weren't employed on merit, would it not make you feel a bit sick?

I agree entirely. There is attempting to make things equal and compromising quality to force it to be equal. Can you imagine the PSNI having to recruit disabled people specifically to get numbers up? Sounds sensible and all that but I wouldn't be so happy to call the police only for someone to turn up who was unable to chase after someone because they were not able!

caz2703

x12yhp wrote: »

I agree entirely. There is attempting to make things equal and compromising quality to force it to be equal. Can you imagine the PSNI having to recruit disabled people specifically to get numbers up? Sounds sensible and all that but I wouldn't be so happy to call the police only for someone to turn up who was unable to chase after someone because they were not able!

I read your post and it reminded me of this:

Paralysed Man Sues MI5 for £363K After Being Turned Down for Spy Job

Read more: http://www.money.co.uk/article/1003056-paralysed-man-sues-mi5-for-363k-after-being-turned-down-for-spy-job.htm#ixzz1lLwI5zLr

spike7451

I served for over 12 years in the RAF as an armourer,at least 6 of them working on small arms.A few years ago the police were recruiting 6x armourers.I was number 4 on the list,the 3 before me being at a higher rank in the army or police armourers.Because of the 50% rule,I was thus put onto a reserve list.I later found that I had scored higher than the non armourers who got the last 3 remaining posts,who had no experience in the trade apart from general engineering.

highrisklowreturn

spike7451 wrote: »

I served for over 12 years in the RAF as an armourer,at least 6 of them working on small arms.A few years ago the police were recruiting 6x armourers.I was number 4 on the list,the 3 before me being at a higher rank in the army or police armourers.Because of the 50% rule,I was thus put onto a reserve list.I later found that I had scored higher than the non armourers who got the last 3 remaining posts,who had no experience in the trade apart from general engineering.

The public who supported the GFA and still support 50/50 policing will draw their dividend on this next day the police fail to diffuse a 50lb dissident bomb.

x12yhp

caz2703 wrote: »

I read your post and it reminded me of this:

Paralysed Man Sues MI5 for £363K After Being Turned Down for Spy Job

Read more: http://www.money.co.uk/article/1003056-paralysed-man-sues-mi5-for-363k-after-being-turned-down-for-spy-job.htm#ixzz1lLwI5zLr

Stupidity really! But that rarely stops anything in this day and age!

highrisklowreturn wrote: »

The public who supported the GFA and still support 50/50 policing will draw their dividend on this next day the police fail to diffuse a 50lb dissident bomb.

That will not help anyone I am afraid. No matter what happens, the police will be at fault. What is worse is that the majority of us will know the reality but the idiots who winge are almost always the ones shouting loudest.