Injury at work - work not convinced

jonnyd281

SarEl wrote: »

And one line out of one post is everyone?

The OP has said what happened - something fell from a high shelf and hit her. Falling from a shelf is not pulling down something on top of her. Suggesting it is could be construed as jumping to conclusions not in evidence.

But stuff falling can be caused by removing something from the shelf such as something from the bottom of a pile, I will say again we only have on side of the story, and before people say how bad this company are and that there are problems in the stockroom.

It's just everyone seems to have been ready to jump and say that the company are at fault based on not a great deal, people are even saying that they are ignoring thier obligations under the HSA, when we and that includes the OP don't know what is happening behind the scenes, for all they know it may well already have been reported.

SarEl

jonnyd281 wrote: »

But stuff falling can be caused by removing something from the shelf such as something from the bottom of a pile, I will say again we only have on side of the story, and before people say how bad this company are and that there are problems in the stockroom.

It's just everyone seems to have been ready to jump and say that the company are at fault based on not a great deal, people are even saying that they are ignoring thier obligations under the HSA, when we and that includes the OP don't know what is happening behind the scenes, for all they know it may well already have been reported.

There you are jumping to conclusions again. One person said something in one line - hardly "people".

jonnyd281

SarEl wrote: »

There you are jumping to conclusions again. One person said something in one line - hardly "people".

Fair point I tried to read this with an open mind, then read oh what a bad company, must be something wrong in the stock room, I was only trying to make sure people were balanced. Guess I failed miserably.:(

mazza111

Regardless of fault. Any accident at work should be reported. Whether it be an accident book, ERICA and/or RIDDOR. Should also be reported to DWP just in case there's any further health problems further down the line.


My manager failed to fill out ERICA report for me (dog's bodies had to access to do it themselves), stating that we'd do it tomorrow as he was too busy today, me being a newbie took him at his word, of course the next day, my knee was so swollen I couldn't walk on it, by the time I got back to work it was too late (ahem) to fill in Erica. Because I only had 2 days off work, no RIDDOR was needed. 3 years down the line I'm still having problems with my knees.

So please please please, get this accident reported in the way the company recommends.

dickydonkin

jonnyd281 wrote: »

I was trying to give a converse argument, having stopped someone in a store at work from doing something stupid, even though the correct tools are available (stood on the very top of a step ladder, and yes I did report it to the safety officer). I only pointed out that someone had stated the stockroom had issues, and since we only have one side of the storey there could be an alternative explaination, such as not using tools even though they are provided, instead of everyone shouting that the OP's daughter's employer has lots of duties under the HSA lets calm down a bit.

Forget about the possible cause of the accident and concentrate on the injury. That type of injury is automatically reportable when it has occured during the course of work - the time off is irrelevant in this case.

The employer is legally bound to report this to the HSE contact centre.

You had a valid point where you suggested that it may have already been reported - however, if you read the title of this thread, I think it is reasonable to assume that this has not happened - although I stand to be corrected on that.

It is possible the manager does not wish to place his outlet on the local authority's radar - or indeed his/her head office. It happens - all too frequently!

Furthermore, to complete a RIDDOR report would need a very basic investigation by the employer - and although the OP has not indicated that this has occurred, that will become apparent as the OP's daughter will receive a copy of any RIDDOR report in the post.

I fully understand why you have attempted offer another perspective, but on what has been posted, my inclination is to believe there are some failings in the employers handling of this.

jkkne

Hello all.

Thank you for all your feedback so far.

My daughter is now recovered and is due to go back late next week after a final check up.

Her workplace have requested a medical certificate detailing the treatments provided by the hospital, they say its a legal requirement.

I'm wary of allowing them access to my daughters records or for them to have too much detail as the accident resulted in her being tested for other ailments which she showed symptoms of which I simply don't want her workplace to be aware of, because its irrelevant.

Do I have to give out the full disclosure and access to records for her?

Emmzi

they have a right to know
a) that she was legitimately off and
b) what injuries were caused by the incident

I would suggest a fit note for the former and an agreement she will see occ health for the latter.

In any event she has a right to see and veto any reports about her.

jkkne

Emmzi wrote: »

they have a right to know
a) that she was legitimately off and
b) what injuries were caused by the incident

I would suggest a fit note for the former and an agreement she will see occ health for the latter.

In any event she has a right to see and veto any reports about her.

They don't have Occupational Health. I've got a letter stating she attended hospital and was there for 2 days and she's handed in a sick note from the GP after her followup.

They are saying they need clinical details which seems a bit intrusive

Emmzi

She's under no obligation to permit them access to full medical records; she can ask to see the report before it goes in. I suggest she makes an appointment with her GP to discuss.

Whether she feels able to stand up to her employer is another matter, but no one can do it for her!

dickydonkin

To balance things up, perhaps the OP's daughter could also ask for a copy of the RIDDOR report that should have been submitted by law - although probably wasn't!

It seems the company are preparing themselves in readiness for a claim for compensation and I am wondering if they are making sure the OP's daughter is certainly aware they will fight a claim.

Not being believed, not acknowledging their own safety failings and suffering an injury through no fault of her own would be enough justification for me to make a claim.

However.......

Whether she feels able to stand up to her employer is another matter, but no one can do it for her!

And I suspect the employer may be playing on this as well.