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Air Source Heat Pump - Best Electricty plan

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  • Andy_WSM
    Andy_WSM Posts: 2,217 Forumite
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    wytco0 wrote: »

    Do you know what that EON tarrif is called I can then give them a call.

    Save Online 7 looks to be the cheapest at the moment. It's a web based Tariff though - so calling them isn't the right approach - do you not have an online account with E.On? If you do, changing tariff with them takes just a few minutes.

    Here are the Tariff details.

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    E.ON SaveOnline 11

    Cancellation Fee
    £30

    Electricity
    These details are effective from 27/02/2012. If you switch before this date you will be billed at the current rate for this product until then.
    • Prices will be at least 2% cheaper than our standard E.ON Energy Plan prices for 12 months, from the date you sign up to E.ON SaveOnline 11
    • You can provide accurate meter readings easily online
    • Pay by fixed monthly Direct Debit and be in control of your payments
    • Change your Direct Debit details securely and easily
    • Help the environment by receiving your bills online and view bills anytime
    • Please note: Prices are not fixed
    Gas Discounts
    • 6.00 % Direct Debit Discount
    • 2.00 % Dual Fuel Direct Debit Discount
    Electricity Discounts
    • 6.00 % Direct Debit Discount
    • 2.00 % Dual Fuel Direct Debit Discount
    Electricity
    Normal units up to 900 kWhs per year
    22.806 pence

    Normal units
    11.477 pence per kWh

    Gas
    Normal units up to 2680 kWhs per year
    7.716 pence

    Normal units
    3.357 pence per kWh
  • wytco0
    wytco0 Posts: 88 Forumite
    Andy_WSM wrote: »
    Save Online 7 looks to be the cheapest at the moment. It's a web based Tariff though - so calling them isn't the right approach - do you not have an online account with E.On? If you do, changing tariff with them takes just a few minutes.

    Here are the Tariff details.

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    E.ON SaveOnline 11

    Thanks Andy however I am a bit confused ! :)

    You mention Save Online7 and SaveOnline 11?

    I do have an online account and I have just checked the options they offer me to switch. I cant see SaveOnline 7, but for SaveOnline 11 I see very different prices than those you quote

    The prices I get offered are:
    Electricity
    Night units
    5.88 pence per kWh

    Day units up to 900 kWhs per year
    27.416 pence

    Day units
    14.312 pence per kWh


    I dont have dual fuel I the house only has electricity) I wonder if thats why I dont get the same options.
  • E.ON_Company_Representative
    E.ON_Company_Representative Posts: 806 Organisation Representative
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    Hi wytco0

    I hope you don't mind me popping on to this thread. :)

    To find out which is the best tariff for your Air Source Heat Pump heating, go to our website and search Air Source Heat Pump, we have a special team who deal with this type of heating, they will recommend which is the best tariff to go on.

    If you need any other help just let me know.

    Amy.
    Official Company Representative
    I am an official company representative of E.ON. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • wytco0
    wytco0 Posts: 88 Forumite
    edited 4 February 2012 at 12:34AM
    Ok I rang EON and I am now switching to Track and save V11.

    This is better than my old plan and does not have any switching penalties so gives me a chance to change without notice.

    Electricity
    Normal units up to 180 kWhs per year
    22.026 pence
    Normal units
    11.785 pence per kWh

    Seems good to me, now I expect you will al tell me there is fatal flaw in this plan :):)
  • grahamc2003
    grahamc2003 Posts: 1,771 Forumite
    wytco0 wrote: »
    We are just about to move into a new house which is heated by an Air Source Heat Pump (ASHP).

    Does anyone with ASHP have any recommendations as to which electricity plan I shoudl select? Our Electricity is with EON and we in Norfolk.

    I think it's impossible to give advice unless we know what type of ASHP you have.

    Advice for a whole house ecodan type would be different than that for stand alone air to air heatpumps or exhaust air heatpumps.

    The 24hr operation generally applies to the large ecodan types - the type I'm interested in (air to air, like the efficient fan heater mentioned) can simply be used as fan heaters as and when required. I'd be thinking of coming off e7 and going onto a single rate tariff if I had 2 or 3 atahp fan heaters - simply because I wouldn't run them at night (I don't mind how cold it gets when I'm in bed) and with 5 or 6kW availablein each unit, I could turn them on and they'd quickly warm a room up - but that is simply my choice of how I would use them.
  • I would go with Cardew's and Grahamc2003's advice an go with the cheapest normal rate you can find.

    We have a Mitsubishi Ecodan connected to fan convectors and ufh, no thermal store involved, and this arrangement works out cheap to run.

    ASHPs are best left to run 24/7 with temp set backs say 17c overnight with 21c during the day as our house is normally occupied during the day.

    I would add that that if we have had work done on the house and the doors have been left open all day so the temp has dropped to say 13c the ASHP will get the house back up to 20/21c in about an hour which is not really any different to GCH. The ASHP would be turned off for the duration. I guess this comes down to the very fast response of the fan convectors.
  • wytco0
    wytco0 Posts: 88 Forumite
    Hi wytco0

    I hope you don't mind me popping on to this thread. :)

    To find out which is the best tariff for your Air Source Heat Pump heating, go to our website and search Air Source Heat Pump, we have a special team who deal with this type of heating, they will recommend which is the best tariff to go on.

    If you need any other help just let me know.

    Amy.

    Hi thanks for that however I could not find anything about how to contact the special team.

    I also notice that despite agreeing to Track and save V11 my account is showing as Track and save V12 which has similar unit prices but has a much higher cutoff for before hitting Normal units, I was told it was 180 for V11 but V12 is showing as 720.
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,063 Forumite
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    wytco0 wrote: »
    Hi thanks for that however I could not find anything about how to contact the special team.

    I also notice that despite agreeing to Track and save V11 my account is showing as Track and save V12 which has similar unit prices but has a much higher cutoff for before hitting Normal units, I was told it was 180 for V11 but V12 is showing as 720.

    I think all their tariffs are 180 Tier1 units a quarter(720 a year)
  • In order to promote installation of ASHP and GSHP systems there is a need for introducing better tariff compared to standard and economy 7
  • rogerblack
    rogerblack Posts: 9,446 Forumite
    ucesmik wrote: »
    In order to promote installation of ASHP and GSHP systems there is a need for introducing better tariff compared to standard and economy 7

    I'd strongly disagree with this.
    Any measures should not be targeted towards subsidising energy use, but towards energy efficiency.
    If someone has 10K to upgrade their heating, I'd rather we push them as much as possible towards insulation - proper insulation to current standards or even better - not merely cavity and loft.
    If there is to be any subsidy at all.

    In this case, the subsidy is probably a net positive - if you can increase the energy efficiency of the housing stock, you decrease the amount of foreign currency needed to buy fuel. This does good things for the economy.
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